John McAfee is a computer programer that created the first antivirus software, making him over 100 million dollars. He ran for president under the libertarian party twice, coming in third. He is wanted for questioning in 6 countries last I spoke to him, he is a modern day outlaw living life on his own terms.
I was really excited to talk to John because I believe he is someone who is unapologetically himself, and that ends up getting him into trouble from time to time. While some of the things he says during our conversation will upset some, I do believe he is a good person, with a wild streak. We both highly encourage listeners to do their own research when it comes to COVID and their health.
I did fact check a couple of the more controversial talking points ( I welcome listeners to do their own research as well)
I don't want to make light of anyone that has lost someone close to them during these uncertain and confusing times, I do think it's important to show numbers and compare statistics because that can help shed light on the situation and leave people more informed to make the decisions that are best for them.
The goal of this podcast is to talk to outliers, independent thinkers, and people that are controversial. I think John McAfee fits the bill for all of those things. Go into this with an open mind and enjoy the ride.
You can find John on twitter https://twitter.com/officialmcafee
Support the show (http://patreon.com/candicehorbacz)
0 (4s): Okay. 1 (4s): Hello everybody at your listening to Chatting with Candice. I'm your host Candice Squareback. Before we get started on this week's episode, if you have the time please rate and review the podcast, it would help us out a ton. This week. I'm really excited. We have Candice mama joining us. She was named one of the world's most inspiring women by Vogue magazine. She was also named the top 20 African women by African union and the native nations. Her story was turned into a documentary called it's pleasure to meet you, which was featured at the Louis Vuitton foundation. Candice mama's story has been heard by the Dalai Lama. She's a published author, a multi award winning speaker, a TEDx speaker. 1 (45s): You can learn more about email@example.com. I don't want to give too much of her story away. She does a much better job at telling the story than I ever could. So I'm going to let her get into that in just a second. If you want to find out more about Candice, you can go to Candice mama.com. She's a really powerful woman. She's doing a lot of work in the field of forgiveness and healing. And I think that this is a really powerful episode for really anybody. So I hope you enjoy the conversation. It was such a pleasure to have her on this episode. 0 (1m 22s): Okay. 1 (1m 22s): Hello, everybody at your listening and Chatting with Candice. I'm your host Candice Horbacz. Before we get started on this week's episode, if you want to support the podcast, you can go to the show notes and I'll take you to our Patrion account. You get early access to episodes, live AMS, and it just makes podcasting easier for us this week. I can't believe the guests that we had. I kind of started following him on Twitter. He's a very controversial person. He definitely lives life. How he wants. He doesn't really conform to norms by any stretch of the imagination. He's kind of like a modern day, outlaw, a bit of a tech Renegade, a few will. 1 (2m 2s): So this week we have John McAfee so his story is really wild. Brace yourself, buckle up. This gets a little bit crazy and I wouldn't have it any other way and enjoy the episode. So I'm going to appoint you the title of the world's most interesting man, and I'm probably not the first person to say that I started following you. When I saw someone like retweet, you are wearing like a thong on your phase. And someone was saying, he, we were getting arrested at an airport because that was the mask. It was like, who is this guy? And then I got into bit of like a YouTube, a whole and a Google whole. And 0 (2m 41s): You don't want to, don't want to dig too deep into me. Is it isn't pleasant and it will get you into, at work. 1 (2m 47s): So I would disagree it because it's like, who has a story like that? Right. Like you have to have, okay. So first starting, you created like the first antivirus software, right? So you have a background in engineering or how did that start? Because usually you're first start 2 (3m 3s): Software engineering. That's all I've ever done. Well, software engineering and chasing women. And it that's all. 1 (3m 11s): Okay. So you had like a massive exit, which is unheard of, right? Like that very rarely happens, right? Like you had to the legend, it was like a hundred plus million dollar cause you left the company. Right? 2 (3m 22s): Well, that was not my only company at that reason. And people talk about that companies because it bears my name that I've been involved in and a dozen are more successful reading and in terms of finance, but we can talk about that later, but yes. I mean, most people know me, four McAfee antivirus. I was the first person to create and, and live our risk program. So we have it, but it was a boring. It really was so sorry to say, when something exciting about, so what's your passion project now than it's quite a few? 2 (4m 5s): Well, not in my biggest passion project. It is of a cryptocurrency called ghost, but that's not the currency. I'm attempting to turn that into a stable coin. And it would be the world's first, a stable privacy coin. And, and I think it will become the standard for cryptocurrency exchanges, not, not for it's a stable quarter and you can invest in, never goes anywhere in it. It's always pegs to within 1% or the us dollar is so why bother? You can hold it. And I expect to get rich. This is not happening. No it's actually to be used. Now, governments do not like this at all already. 2 (4m 51s): You know, government's who are coming down on Monero, which is the standard privacy coin, but more narrow fluctuates, wildly in value. It's a spooky thing to use as a standard of exchange, a ghost, which we've already developed is equally as a private and anonymous. And we were coming out with a stable version of mighty. I mean, that's got to take over all crypto currency exchanges. I think when we have people actually using it and not investing people do not invest it in cryptocurrency, go to Los Vegas and the playbook craps craps as best you the best odds of, of any and Las Vegas. 2 (5m 35s): Is that with you about, so in the past the line and just save to get more or less after the a seven, the deuce is a roll. So we know it's M it's my, of my real passion. And I know that governments are going to come down harder on me and they're already coming down hard and I'm on the run from six different governments. Now the lease United States, The Bahamas Cuba and the Dominican Republic is that, so I think it was, 1 (6m 7s): That's absolutely crazy to me. I was, when I was emailing with your wife, I was like, your life is kind of like a bond movie to me. Like, it's just, just when you think you kind of like are catching up, like there's like another twist and another turn. 2 (6m 21s): And at 75 years old, I've been arrested 22 times and 11 different countries. My last arrest, it was 18 months ago in the Dominican Republic. People, if you're looking for a jail experience, really only the most hardened and seasoned jail experienced people, they should try that one out. So it's a, it's, it's just a cut above United States jails, which are just about at the very f*****g bottom. Well, yeah, you get fed, but no, I mean, jails in America or a cold, harsh love the environment. 2 (7m 2s): What's the best jail in Mexico. It's a social life. It's fun. I do in jail would want four times in Mexico. And every time it was one of the greatest experience as well in life. When I made friends who are as parties, if we got money, they will bring you beer. They will bring you girls. They do whatever you f*****g want to pay for it. Well, I wasn't hanging on. It was in prison and in Guatemala, Jesus, and God, I've never had more sex in my life. I'm serious. No, I mean, you know, I was wrong. Why my Spanish is good enough to enjoy the television or even have a decent conversation for more than 30 seconds. 2 (7m 47s): And no one there spoke English. So yeah, of course. I just feel myself. We took over as a nonstop would, you can do the guard's will bring you anything you want. She'd got the cash to pay for it. And the odd thing is in most third world countries, if you've got the cash in yourself, nobody steals it. He might get stabbed murdered or killed. Right. But are you going to steal your money? It doesn't happen there. So I don't know why nevertheless she has. So it was a great experience. In fact, as soon as I got out of jail in Guatemala, December of 2012, as when I met James, who was a working girl in Miami at that time who came up to me and said, would you like this? 2 (8m 36s): Which are all like that? Like, are you s******g me? I just want a nice cup of coffee. I mean, I have had more p***y than God, two months. So now, so yes, I've been arrested. 1 (8m 50s): Find yourself in these situations, like on the run from in six different countries and then getting to experience all of these, these jails. 2 (8m 58s): I make my own rules abide by government's rules. So in Jesus, God, you know it, not that I break rules like murdering people in and molesting old ladies, no rules like, Oh no, you may not cross this imaginary border without all this documentation. Well f**k you. I'm going to swim that river to miles upstream. So f**k you people. No, I got arrested arrested. In fact, my two months in Guatemala was for entering Guatemala illegally by simply coming in by boat, grabbing all the boat and going up the, a real deal, say to fund terrorists without having a stamp in my f*****g past from it. 2 (9m 38s): All right. Sometimes I have no, I don't want to deal with authority. So funky people. So probably half of my arrest for has been for crossing borders in the illegally. Well, I don't believe in borders. I'm so sorry for arrests. We're for possession of drugs, which I think why the f**k is that a legal one of my am I grabbing children and forcing it down the road so that they are there for me, people leave me the f**k alone I've had, did have one stupid arrest that it was a DUI. I think in 2017, maybe 2016. Then in Tennessee, when I was arrested for a DUI, that's a s**t load of loaded military firearms so that she has that always just it doesn't it. 2 (10m 30s): But listen, I did 48 hours for that. That's all. Oh, wow. You know, I'm just honest with people. I didn't know what was a legal, it goes on in Tennessee. You may legally have as many guns as you want, but you can't have those guns and be drunk. Nobody told me that s**t. Alright. Don't do, I'm going to start driving is that they gave me drunk driving charge and drop the illegal possession of firearms while intoxicated the charts. Okay. 1 (11m 5s): Holy s**t. So you self admittedly, like you tried lots of different drugs and then you also opened up like a Zen studio for a while. And where I'm like, kinda of tracing these back. When it comes to like psychedelics, a lot of people say they have like a huge shift of perspective of reality, of how they see things and the same with a lot of people in the spirituality. So would you say like, those things have kind of created this persona in this kind of like, I'm not going to abide by the rules kind of personality or were you like that before? 2 (11m 36s): No drugs, drugs, something that they really don't mean? So you, the drugs do not change. You're fundamental character. They really change their perception. It's a big f*****g difference. If you are a shy with strong personality in to drop Ellis and D I don't take all those old drugs anymore. The newer drugs methylenedioxy <inaudible>, which was invented 15 years ago. I mean, the s**t to came from China and Russia, it makes Ellis, the cocaine and methamphetamines with like baby aspirin. 2 (12m 17s): I'm sorry, people, but no, even that s**t doesn't change. It really changes your perceptions. And now you're in a new reality with this same character in most people are, are worse off because they don't have the tools. So if you're going to be changing your perception, you damn well at first, we had to change your character and personality so that you may deal with what happens if the roof blows off of my house and aliens come down, I'm ready for that s**t. 1 (12m 57s): So what would you say your biggest, your biggest shift was after you like, did a bunch of drugs? I guess specifically I was watching one video that said like, you did like a bag, I dunno, in a bag, his, of DMT, but something like way more than his record. 2 (13m 12s): And what is that? It wasn't just the EMT that was back. In fact, I was 19. And, and when was that in the eighties? Something very light in the game, but no, no, no, no. So in the seventies, I think whatever it was, I mean, I was taking so many drugs. I was constantly drugged on something. LSD, morphine, heroine, marijuana, you f*****g nailed it. I was never a straight, I wanted to straight for 15 years. And so the DMT in combination with God knows what else I had taken sent me over for two months. Right. I was totally oblivious to the reality around and I was struggling too, but the world back together can cause it has shattered. 2 (13m 58s): Literally it will literally like a mirror shattered into a million pieces. That was reality. And I struggled for two months to take pieces and put them back together. Now there's still a s**t load of pieces I could not find. So I have some serious holes in my being in my relationship to the world around me. However, it seems to the functional, okay. I may, and it works. So he built a bunch of companies traveled everywhere. I've slept with many thousands of women love to brag about and keep in mind, keep in mind. 2 (14m 38s): My goal was simply two things, technology and women's. So I have succeeded in my goal is to have, I know 1 (14m 46s): It definitely say yeah, absolutely do. So one of the other things that I guess you're known for is made a run for president in the libertarian party twice. So first of all, can you explain what a libertarian is? Because I was reading like something like 50% of people misidentify it. Okay. 2 (15m 3s): We haven't a clue. We do. I don't know. I have no interest, some libertarianism. I used them because in order to run, I'm going to do is pay $25. Be a member or go, well, f**k that. So easy. By the way, in 2016, I came in third. All right, this time I paid no attention at all. I didn't even show up at the debates. One of them said, where were you? Like, I don't know. I was a drunk. I didn't feel no, I didn't wanna be president that God almighty. Who does it? Doesn't it got no power? No. I simply wanted to use the platform and that stage it's to say what I wanted to say to a wider audience, which I did. And I'm happy. 1 (15m 43s): So what was your message that you are trying to get across? How old are you? How old am I? 2 (15m 47s): Are you married? Yes. Did you have children held or a girl name? No name. 1 (15m 56s): There is a name, but we don't say it publicly. 2 (15m 58s): Okay. So now you brought no name into the world, either willingly or accidentally of by design or by, by chance, what do you want for a new name to inherit it as you a raise him and that's the age of 21 goes off. What it is it that you want no names to inherit? Is it that you want for him? Can you tell me that? 1 (16m 29s): We feel like that's such a loaded question, but I guess for the sake of like, just time, I would say to have like a sense of curiosity and be like an independent thinker, which I don't think there's a lot of. So how do you get that? I don't know. You just have to instill certain beliefs that you believe to be true and create like a sense of independence so that he doesn't become part of like this crowd that you see right now. It's like someone tells you this is the right way. And then you just see a herd of people move there without questioning. So I guess to be someone that questions, things, and not just take everything for face value and then to do what makes him happy and not just chase money. 1 (17m 10s): And 2 (17m 11s): What do you use used the word proper beliefs for a few times in that discussion. Let me tell you what I think about belief. Two people who can see has to believe in sunlight. You can see it and we've pleased an old fart who needs to believe in some ways that the blind only the blind, I would rather have mr. Nameless come into the world with no beliefs whatsoever. None so that he may see the world as it truly is. Because until you drop every belief that you have, what's right. 2 (17m 54s): What's wrong. What's good. What's bad. He goes, you don't know then for you, you're not sure what's right and wrong. It changes it doesn't, it doesn't get old. Right. So what belief do you think you're going to instill in mr. Nameless is not going to be the right one for him. Is it not necessarily now? So that was so I would say mr. Nameless believe nothing ever nothing. And if you find yourself believing something and understand this, you are blind to that. Something, otherwise belief would not be necessary. Now, have we got off on this nonsense? I do not know. 1 (18m 36s): We are talking about you're message for the message you are trying to get across when you were running for president, it just gave it to you. Okay. Good. 2 (18m 45s): Know yourself, know yourself before you try to know the World 1 (18m 49s): Totally agree with that. 100%. I think most people and a lot of what we see today is a lot of people are avoiding getting to know themselves and like facing certain hard truths so that they focus on problems elsewhere or a focus on other issues that make them kind of like, I guess not focus on the issues at home. So how do you believe nothing? When you are surrounded by media, that's telling you one truth. You're a surfer. You know, if assuming you send your kid to a public school or private school, it doesn't really matter. Now a days like they also have certain truths that they're instilling, and then you have parents that are instilling another chews. So how do you go about just remaining neutral? 2 (19m 26s): It doesn't say we made a neutral that you should ever be neutral. You should not be always 100% in all circumstances on the side of young nameless. Do you understand? All right, so you then need not. Why should you listen to it? Does this school? No. Mr. Names is that they shake his hand and they listened to him. As he awoke crying from a dream. Have they held mr. Nameless in their arms? Have the f**k. Did they have to do it with mr. Nameless? Nothing only you, your husband and those who have met personally. 2 (20m 12s): Mr. Nameless. So why the f**k do you care what they're saying? No, I'm sorry. It sounds simplistic, but it is, 1 (20m 22s): But kids are so malleable. Right? So like, and I find a lot of kids can easily be more influenced by like peers and teachers than parents. Just because the parents aren't cool or in any more on what do you know? Right. So it's like, how do you, how do we create a buffer for that? 2 (20m 39s): It will need to know the child's most influential time. Every human's most influential time, their life. It was the first three years off of it where they begin to understand what the reality is. I mean, for two weeks, nameless didn't even recognize who you are. Right. And then suddenly he did. And from there began to who you are. The guide two is reality in these three years of his life. So it doesn't matter. What's going to happen after pay attention to now, what does he want? 2 (21m 21s): He wants is a coherent understanding of his environment. The relationship between you and your husband. Is it calm? Is it happy, comforting, or are there are angry words in front of mr. Nameless? Who gives a s**t, but the school he's gonna go too. That's of no importance compare to what he is learning of the truth of this world through you and your husband. 1 (21m 54s): Well, I hope you're right. I definitely hope you're right. 2 (21m 57s): Okay. Okay. And how can that possibly be wrong? 1 (22m 0s): You see certain, I guess, issues kind of arising, especially within schools and with peers and then a lot of parents, like, what do I do? 2 (22m 8s): Well, you know, if, if by the age of three, if you have given an environment of nothing for it, 1 (22m 17s): Okay. 2 (22m 19s): To mr. Nameless is not going to matter what school you sent him to do, you understand we'll at the age of three, do you have formed within himself, a solid basis of relationship to reality. And from that he is a flying f**k. I'm in school, him, yourself, and do in a Montessori school, it will not f*****g matter. And if you have given him and environment of love, caring, and harmony, and then sat him down at the age of five are when the kids go to school with who says 18 months, don't do that. 2 (22m 60s): Don't do that. Why would you do that? 1 (23m 3s): The, the narrative is that it's supposed to like give them a leg up on kids that don't and their getting ahead in STEM, 2 (23m 10s): Listening to the narrative and listen to the heart of a mother, which is in you. Good God on money. That's insane. I had no idea to start lobbying against that s**t. Do it, do it. No, it's stupid. Why do they say that? Because those in power don't want a three year over a four year old has already formed starting. They want to start indoctrination and propaganda at the age of 18 months. Please. God. See the horror in that. No, on that. That's where 1 (23m 46s): We started getting like our concerns when it came to education. Because certain things that they were teaching 18 month olds, I was like, this is really off like things that were just in my mind, wildly inappropriate. So it didn't make sense. So we were 2 (24m 0s): And not do it. Listen to the art and go, I'm going to do it. F**k you people in the school at five or six, if you don't like it. F**k you. 1 (24m 7s): Yeah. It's a crazy time for being a parent right now. For sure. You did mention earlier that presidents don't matter. So it would you say that people are being really dramatic when they say like, if a certain president is elected, we are going to be socialists. And then if a certain president is elected, that there's just going to be chaos in the streets forever because there's so much division, I guess. Where do you see? I guess, November taking us. Do you think its gonna make a difference at all? Are we going to kind of still being in the spirit? 2 (24m 35s): The difference since 1960 for God's sake, if you think presidents, okay. Can you not look at history? The history Obama for five years of his presidency spent building his Magnum Opus, Obama care. We all knew it would be destroyed. Those of us, we had a brain While are you doing this? Because this is a president presidents don't matter what happened to it gone Donald Trump. I'm going to build a wall between America and Mexico, 1,796 miles of it. How many miles were built? Three because he has no power. 2 (25m 18s): Not that he didn't want too. Of course he wanted to do it to show the seat. I do what I say no. President has got no power. The power resides in that fossilized fixed bureaucracy of, for people at the middle level or that can't be fired presence. Can't go on fire from a clerk in the social security program in Boston now can happen. They have the power who makes laws supposed to the Congress for every law in Congress passes. This bureaucracy passes 20, looking it up. People pleasing God. So it doesn't matter. 2 (25m 58s): Who's president, they got no power. They can't do anything. And you show me a single president has done anything. I mean anything. I'm going to be able to walk. I'm going to make a Obamacare. No, you're not. Nobody is going to do anything. Of course your just a f*****g president is why we care who president is. We care because it keeps us from looking at the true power. The fossilized bureaucracy have that 3 million people who've been there and will be there. Their entire lives. That's where the power lies. And we can't vote those m***********s out. 2 (26m 39s): That is the problem with America. Why you care? Who the president? I just laugh and go, well, I'm good. But have you not looked at history since 1968? No president has done anything that he says I'm going to do to go well at present. So I'll keep their promises. They tried, they did. It's a course. They try, they have no power to do so. Please got people wake up and foreign affairs. It's the CIA who decides that's s**t. And they tell their privilege, listen to the second Gulf war. Did that happen? Okay. The CIO, he goes, you know, we've tried the seven times it's to assess and he listened this isn't working. 2 (27m 26s): This has been a balm, a rock and roll through the middle ages in somebody goes, okay, well for all the guys in Washington to make Bush bomb Iraq, how did they make Bushbam a wreck. They said, mr. Present, we had an issue. Have the most critic. We just discovered that Iraq has a nuclear weapons and missiles capable of destroying our closest ally, which has England. Mr. President. We have a fear that there will be an imminent attack on London within 24 hours. While we were doing who were bombing a rock in to the stone ages where the nuclear weapons, no look for them for a whole f*****g year. 2 (28m 10s): We all knew there were no nuclear weapons. Do you understand people stop looking at president and Congress. They got no power. Instead. Look at the real problems. The fossilized, the bureaucracy, the truly runs the America that makes it all the laws and all the decisions. Listen. That's why I laugh with the world. Well, Trump Biden people stupid and watch while are you bothering? 1 (28m 40s): Okay. So I guess where do you go from there? We just kind of like at the mercy of those people that we can't be voted out, we just have to see how it plays out are like what? 2 (28m 50s): So we wake everybody up because listen, here's what happens when people see the truth and enough of them, you don't need a plan. You are watching brawling movie on a screen or in a theater. There's a fire or in the back. Do you notice it with a movie? So in scrawling, no, one's going to turn around. If you can get everybody's to see were on fire, we are going to die. Do you need a plan? No, we don't sit there and go. Okay. So now after the fire roll one day, no f**k MI you leave. We are all saying, so I don't know how it's going to happen. I do know that if we don't wake people up, it will not happen ever. 2 (29m 32s): That's all I'm trying to do is point out the truth of reality in America to be like yourself, how do we go waking people up? 1 (29m 42s): But especially I find when people are really invested in to something like emotionally, a lot of times like a number could be staring you in the face. And you're like, Oh, well that's not actually real because of whatever. And they use their feelings to justify like a truth that they've been told. So how do you, I guess people did it. Okay. 2 (29m 60s): You don't, you move on to the next person. You don't have to wake everybody up. Have to wake up a critical mass. 10% of the population are in a movie theater. How many people does is it required it to look back? It's like, Oh my God, you're on fire. Not as many, not many. Wake up one in a hundred. That's all of those necessary. Look at all the great revolutions in the past. Now that the French revolution was my favorite. And because the aristocracy, he was so far removed from reality. When the riots started in Paris, because there was no food, the queen goes on, what's happening here. 2 (30m 43s): He goes, there's no bread. You're mad. And she goes, Oh, don't worry that she thinks the NGOs have a solution. Let them eat cake and post this message throughout to Paris. No, she's a queen. Or are you going to say, we can't do that. Now you got to do what she says. When those posts went up, you may now We cake. They started burning and everything was over the French revolution succeed. That's all it takes his people going. This is the truth of our leaders. There are so out of touch, but there is no bread. Their shores f**k is no cake, please. God. I do think that's what's happening now. 2 (31m 23s): Yes, it's very close than America. 1 (31m 26s): So I think a lot of this that we're seeing like in the streets right now, it's almost like compounded obviously with everything that's happening with COVID. So some people are saying that this is strategized, obviously for a certain like elections I'm in certain people want everything shut down. Like what do you see happening? 2 (31m 43s): Okay. And then we strategize. There's no problem, statistically. It's less deadly than the flu. What the f**k are we even talking about it for it? 1 (31m 52s): So how is that still a controversial statement? You can look it up. No, I know 2 (31m 58s): The blue killed 730,000 people as you're. Can you not look this up diarrhea killed five times. As many as COVID has killed in the same period of time, can we not at least look it up. This is not controversial. These are the statistics that are collected every country in the World Jesus, God, people waiting up COVID is not a problem. So stop wearing your masks. Stop social distancing. If we do not resist this nonsense, we are lost people. If you actually buy this crap, let me ask you to something I'm in the middle of a pan demic. 2 (32m 38s): How many people that you know personally have died from this zero. How many people that you know, personally know someone personally who started from this nun, the client be there's not enough, not enough deaths. One person out of 10,000 in this world has died. Of course you can't be touched by it. Good. God people wake up, please. A pandemic. You are going to know somebody who, who died or are they going to know somebody who, who died? No, there is no f*****g problem. And especially you youth, nobody under the age of 50. Well, and I'd say nobody less than 25 people world wide under the age of 50 died, an issue m***********g children wearing masks and the f**k is wrong with you. 2 (33m 31s): Okay? 1 (33m 31s): So there are some of the argument when it comes to the numbers is like, there's one number, right? And then the CDC says, well actually only 6% have that number was COVID alone. So those people that are arguing like a larger number is saying, well, if they didn't catch COVID, then they wouldn't have died. But to my knowledge, we don't report other, you know, things like the flu or other diseases that way either. Okay. 2 (33m 53s): Using the best meaning I'm using the government saying that this is the worst case and that's the worst case. It's not a problem. That's what I'm saying. And if it's 6% of not a problem, please God wake up, children, stop this nonsense. You want names to grow up, having to wear a f*****g mask because if you don't stop yourself than you are convicting nameless through a life of insanity, 1 (34m 22s): Where do you see this going? Because I've been talking to some people that are saying suggesting like masks are going to be a thing to like 20, 22. So do you think people are going to be compliant with that or 2 (34m 33s): Not? I f*****g hope I'm not. When I have to wear a mask, I wear my wife's f*****g thongs. And if you don't like it arrest me and I've been arrested once already, but I am not putting on a f*****g mask. Which restricts if you, if you don't think massive to check your breathing, don't want on tell me that you don't feel different. Yeah, of course you in insane. Doctors hang a Doctors in Oklahoma have now filed a suit. Claiming that masks are going to kill a hundred times as many people as COVID. If we continue to wear them and there are correct, you are breathing your own CO2. 2 (35m 15s): Good God wakeup folks. They go While Doctors I'm sorry. Yeah, this is because of the doctor. That's a recommendation. Doctors 10 to 15 years earlier than everybody else. He got a lot of doctors with it and go, well, I'm not then if Doctors were it, I'm sure it's but not. They have the shortest life expectancy on the planet. Google had people f*****g Google in every country in the world, physicians die before anybody else. Now I'm not saying is because they weren't mad, but I'm saying you going to want to doctors wear it, but I'm seriously not wearing it. Doctors like vitamins I in taking vitamins, do you understand? 2 (35m 56s): It's insane. Well, here's a, here's a group of the population that dies earlier than anybody. So we should do what they do it. Do you understand how stupid that cell? And yet people say it pleases people just wake up, 1 (36m 10s): I guess. Do you just kind of like get in like your own rabbit holes where you're trying to just find independent sources of information because I guess where do you see the news going with that? 2 (36m 18s): We don't go down rabbit holes. I just go to the sources of information. That's out a rabbit hole. Statistics is not a f*****g habit. 1 (36m 28s): So where do you get your news though? And I guess you just find independent sources or because right now, if you turn on any like mainstream news, they all have like the same story for the most part and like that. 2 (36m 37s): And I've never seen for 10 years, I have not watched Fox C and R anymore. Why the f**k would you be watching that crap? No, Google. I mean go to the CDC first and ask them where that yesterday and then go to those independent sources and check how valid it sounds. Alright. Do the same thing with who do the same thing with the Japanese organization for Health it's going to take you, right? It's gonna take you off a f*****g day and you want to know what's the truth is you can get true. Sorry. I'm sorry. Now, listen, we're running short on time in Janice said that you promised we can talk about knitting, knitting. 2 (37m 21s): What do you want to talk about knitting? Did she not? Didn't he send you the topic or the relationship of knitting? I guess I missed that knitting mortality and Russian cuisine. She didn't know how are you serious? Well then nevermind. That's what we came prepared to the top. 1 (37m 42s): That explains everything. Okay. 2 (37m 44s): No, it doesn't actually, it really does that mean, for example, do you ever see 12 year olds at the mall waiting for their friends? Knitting know who do you see? Living grandmothers. Yes. And waiting for deaths to come knocking through the door. And when are they meeting? Well, the knitting sweaters, shawls socks, maybe for their great grandchildren or grandchildren. No will never where it goes. One of the, I ain't wearing that s**t to grandma done. No, they know no one's going to work. And yet he spent weeks, sometimes a month meeting that sweater and, and for every f*****g Skitch, if we stitch is a memory while they're knitting, there are we you every minute, our gay of their life. 2 (38m 42s): So there are knitting their lives into this f*****g sweater, which they know no one's going to ever wear. I think you would anyway. Why? Because the death is coming in. They know what's more challenging. What is this has to do with the Russian cuisine, which is the crux of this entire f*****g issues. Well, what are your grandmas knit? Do they knit While at the store? F**k no, they knit. Wow. The food is cooking. Now. Why should the food like borscht? F**k me. That's a 10 hour job to make a good Borsch. 2 (39m 24s): So pretend ours. And the kitchen. Grandma's a rocking and the knitting, our first kiss. The first time she'd touched the deck. The first time that she got laid her first baby for the first to fare with someone who is not our first job, our first knockdown drag out fight with our drunkard, a husband that's stitched the number of 16,000 rites. We still are finished at the g*****n sweaty. So why do you think Russia is a, is sought after, by a connoisseur of food on this f*****g planet is because if it is a home f*****g in there and grandma knows, and it's no one's ever wanna wear this f*****g sweater. 2 (40m 23s): Well f**k with you because you are going to eat this food, which has also a piece of my life as much as it is. And in this context, I'm a sweater. So no, but I think that's, it says everything you need to know about life. Is there any other questions? 1 (40m 46s): No, I'll be unpacking that Ferriss. So I want it to just play that on loop for a little bit. The last thing I kind of wanted to talk about, I wanted to talk about your privacy coins. We mentioned it at the very beginning of the episode. So what's like the difference between a privacy coin in crypto, like this part of crypto and it is the same crypto. 2 (41m 8s): It was the world of crypto currency. There are over 30,000 different coins. A Bitcoin is one, but through him is one and so on. Everybody talks about Bitcoin, which it was the first Bitcoin is not private, not secure. Well, it's not, Oh, f**k me. If I send you a four or $5 in Bitcoin or you send me forever after I can look in your model and see how much you have, where its comes from and where it goes. I had no idea. That's the problem. See everybody's going and invest in this. Yeah. People don't understand what the f**k. 2 (41m 49s): Sorry. So no, no. It's like, if a plumber comes to your house to fix, you are seeing anywhere from a check for $40. They then, well, they go to the bank and cash the check at the end, by the way, they are going to check you're from Candice. Can you tell me how much money she's got and they go, yes, of course. Here's our balance. I go, it's interesting. Can you tell me for the past two months, how much money has come in and farm home and all the checks did she's written to people are like, well, yes, of course. Well, how bout all the wire transfers? Has he made any, we actually made, you know, they to and for how much would you be happy with your f*****g bank? 2 (42m 30s): No, definitely not. That's Bitcoin. So now I've been saying for, for six years, Bitcoin is dead except in the minds of the stupid including wall street. Apparently. So no, the theory in the same. Exactly the same. Yeah, the difference. But the difference is the theory was not dead. The reason in terms of debt is because of a smart contracts. Bitcoin does not have, but the theory room was the first question is a smart, smart contracts. There's some powerful s**t. And on Ethereum, you've got probably 10,000 coins. It are built on that chain. 2 (43m 10s): You can't ever get rid of the theory. Now it's not going away. Bitcoin's going to go away. But a theory of them since a theory, them almost every new blockchain that's created as my contract, but this Mark contract. Okay. Let's say, let's say that you and I agree, you bet me $200 that I cannot seduce Ivanka Trump. And I go f**k anybody because I can do it know. And you say, I want proof in terms of photographs. Okay. So you and I do a smart contract on the Ethereum blockchain or any blockchain. 2 (43m 51s): And the smart contract says, okay, both of you who have put in to hundred dollars for this bet. Now, as soon as a bunch of people look at the pictures that John, McAfee f*****g Ivanka, then a John gets to the bet. If by October 30th, John cannot produce those photos. Candice gets the money. That's a smart contract. Do you understand and monitored by the entire group? If I submit the pictures and everybody goes very good that's John and Ivanka, and it will go. No that's John and some horror and Bangkok. No. Well you are, you still get the money. 2 (44m 32s): I don't do you see that's a smart contract. The money stays in that contract cannot be changed by anyone until the consensus of the community goes yet. That looks like it's true. Or I bet you that the Dao will reach 15 million by December. That's the easy thing. And we just Go what's the dowel 15 million by December yesterday. Well, if not, you'll get the money it's so I get their money. That's a smart contract. 1 (45m 2s): Okay. I guess the issue with crypto right now is like, there's not like a lot of ways to use it. 2 (45m 8s): And I'm so sorry. It is. That is the most is incorrect thing. You stated it next. The next two, the fact that you might be thinking about sending name was at the age of 18 months. Some f*****g school, but let's disregard that because I don't think he will do that. You look, you look smarter than him. So, so that is now the strange thing he said, no, I don't have a bank account. I have no cash. I have no credit cards, no checks, nothing. Except crypto. I have bought houses, cars, Bulletproof Fest, shoes, peaches. What else? Buy a $17 dinner in London. 2 (45m 53s): Oh, hotels, hotels all over the world now. Except that really? Duh, 1 (45m 60s): It was like shocked. So like, let's say you want to get groceries though. Like how do you get groceries of crypto? 2 (46m 4s): Well, no, that's the problem with groceries are a problem. We have to admit easy. I mean, there were many online. It depends on where you are. I mean, if you're in Germany piece of cake, if you're in England, if you're in America, EASI, there are many, many, many companies that will deliver food to you for quick. Now, if you're in Bucharest, so that's a problem, but not in Bucharest, I'm in a place for, I can buy food with crypto and it's delivered to my door step. The next day I do like my guns, Bulletproof Fest, you name it. There's nothing. So I have not had Janice and I don't use money or a bank accounts and credit cards. And we have it for years. But when I do work for people, if you can't pay me in crypto, I can't work for you. 2 (46m 48s): I'm sorry. What's wrong with you people. So in fact, I just produced not a biography and with help from a Scottish, a ghostwriter, we got a contract from a shitload of money or they couldn't pay us. And crypto, I said, sorry, now that ghostwriter is p****d off, but no, you can't make me in crypto. Well, who the f**k are you? I'm sorry. We should have figured this out to begin with. That's rare. That's rare. No, if you can't do crypto, you are not worthwhile working for it. And if you can't accept crypto, then your products can't be worthwhile buying. There are hundreds of thousands of us just like me that no longer have cash bank accounts or credit card. 2 (47m 34s): We don't need them anymore. 1 (47m 35s): That's fascinating. I wanna like do some more digging into that. Coz I think cryptocurrency is good. Give me some resources. 2 (47m 43s): Google, Google. Are you, do you have Google a handy right now? Why don't you Google real estate for Bitcoin? Even though Bitcoin is no longer used a few idiots still use it real estate for crypto for, for Bitcoin. See how many hundreds of sites come up that sell real estate for crypto. Oh wow. Oh wow. It was right. Hundreds. Anything from $15 million mentions to a $25,000 house in the suburbs of st. Peter's for it. Do you understand now, do you understand what I'm saying? You have missed a movement. I guess so hundreds of thousands of the World no longer use dollars euros or any, nothing along these credit cards no longer used and we're surviving quite a f*****g way. 1 (48m 36s): Yeah. Fascinating. I know what I'm going to be doing for us to the day that you did Google that, right? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I will try them. 2 (48m 43s): What did you find? What was the first one you found? 1 (48m 45s): The first one is Bitcoin real estate.com and its got some 2 (48m 49s): That's by the way, I do not go there. Its say trash site, the house's are 20% overvalued. They are much better size. Okay. And just do some search because most of the house's that you can buy with crypto are 20 to 40% cheaper than buying them with cash. Why they do not have to report the income. Do you understand? 1 (49m 12s): Oh yeah. I was going to ask how taxes go into that. 2 (49m 15s): So as you sell a house and you got to pay, it's been where you are as much as 40% write in taxes. And what note you sell it for? Crypto? What do you pay? 1 (49m 26s): Yeah, it's a massive upside for sure. 2 (49m 28s): Massive upside. So everything we buy as a dirt f*****g cheap. Do you understand? I'm glad you did this for your audience to say the McAfee is not as insane as he appeared was. Although I am. In fact, as I started out going and it was not, there are some pieces missing and from that experience and the early eighties, Louis, Missouri, nevertheless, I still functioned and I see things so that many people do not. 1 (49m 59s): Well, I appreciate you coming on and giving me an hour of your time. 2 (50m 2s): Well, you're very welcome. Let's get together going into 20, 25. 1 (50m 6s): Yeah. See where everyone's at. 2 (50m 9s): So I hope you can make sense out of this. You're a totally different entity in person than you are in some of your websites. 1 (50m 19s): Okay. Thank you. Yeah. There's they're is like a, a disconnect, but a lot of people fail to realize I'm a human. So they just see this one character portrayed. And then that's 2 (50m 29s): I understand. I don't see anything until I see someone in person look into their eyes. So this is close is close so you can get a little, so I think he will do the best thing for nameless and that sort of hope. So my advisors do not under any circumstances, turn that child over to the establishment at the age of 18 months. Please God, you will regret it so much in their later years. So I definitely, I think we've kind of that's where we're going with that. 2 (51m 9s): God, I hope so. Yeah. Okay. 1 (51m 12s): It's too scary. Otherwise, thank you very much. Well, thank you. Have a good day. 0 (51m 19s): Okay. 1 (51m 19s): That's it for this week's episode. I hope you enjoyed it. If you have the time please rate and review and you can always hit subscribe to stay up to date with our latest episodes. I hope to have you back. 0 (51m 30s): <inaudible>.