#29 Wayne Dupree- Politics, Porn, Politically Homeless

0 (0s): I don't believe I'm better than anybody else. Even though the political system that I'm in thinks that some of the people who are better than me and, but I don't, you know, I don't like the system I want to, Oh my God. 1 (23s): Hello everybody. You are listening to Chatting with Candice. I'm your host. Candice Horbacz. Before we get started on this week's episode, if you want to support podcast, you can go to Chatting with Candice dot com. From there, you can sign up for our patron account where you get really access to episodes, shout outs, and eventually some live AMHS. You can also click that little link that says, buy me coffee. Both things helped me out a ton, every dollar counts, especially because I'm just getting started. 0 (53s): You've been busy, bro. Where do you find the time? I, you know what? I don't know. I just make the time that, I mean, I used to like, I've been, I've been doing this for like 10 years, I think, you know, and I was just thinking, right, right before you connected. I haven't been given. Hmm. I don't want to say this. I haven't really been given the opportunity that a whole lot of others, every name that have been given, so I have to work a whole lot harder. 0 (1m 40s): And, but, but when you say that too, the conservative moving and one that they don't want to hear, that we all need, we all need to be on the same ship or in the same direction. Yeah, I understand that. But when I put out something you rarely ever say anything, when someone else puts out the same thing, I just did. They are getting thousands of thousands of retreats. You know, why is that? Do you think, is it just like who's buddy, buddy with certain people or is this many clicks, many clicks. And I know when I left the democratic party in 2007, so when I, when I left the democratic party, I saw many clicks, but I told myself I'm not getting into clicks because one, once you get in the clicks, you know, you have your bad clicks and then you have your worst clicks. 0 (2m 40s): They are never really any good clicks because these groups always think that there are a little bit better than the other person, that stuff. So the gossip groups and rumor groups, and I didn't, I didn't want to get in on it, you know, plus, plus my girls were babies at the time and I just wanted to stick to what I needed to do is try to get the information out and tried to be as honest as I could. And some people can take it. Some people can't take it. So, 1 (3m 15s): So I didn't know that you were in the democratic party. So yeah. So what created that shift? So I think what's interesting about that is people think that once you have some kind of belief system, you have to be there permanently. You're not allowed to change your mind or constantly like reevaluate any issues. So what led you there? 0 (3m 38s): Know I was a Hillary Clinton supporter back in 2007. Okay. And because I didn't, I didn't like Bush George, George W. Bush. Yeah. So I figured if Herbert I, if Clinton it, bill Clinton could come in and fix what daddy Bush messed up. I felt Hillary with bill going in to the white house had the same time I felt they could fix. What Bush had did with the, with the Iraq situation is okay. 0 (4m 19s): So during the, during that campaign season, the media, we got all eat a lot. He died and yada, yada and kumbaya with Barack Obama. I didn't know that much about Barbara, but I know. So, but just because he was a black candidate, I didn't move my allegiance over to him. I just stuck with Hillary, but I can't notice in the way that they cover bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton seemed like everything that they have to say was fraying in a racist way from the media, which kind of pisses me off because I was like, wait a minute, they didn't do that. 0 (4m 60s): But that's the way that it was getting pushed out. And people, people were believing it and people were falling in love with Barack Obama. And, but you can't, but you couldn't ask him questions. You couldn't ask him any type of questions. I remember there was one time when they were up in New Hampshire and bill Clinton was asking the people up there or he made the statement and he was like a Barack Obama said he was fighting the war before he was against it. He, he was fought a war, he put it on his website. And then when he started running for president, he took it off. And the media is not saying anything about it. This is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen in my life and the media and all that extra stuff out. 0 (5m 41s): And then they just use, this is the biggest fairytale that red. And then they said, yeah, bill Clinton is saying that a black man can't run for president has the biggest prior to that, I was like, what's that come from? And when they got to South right in the Northern New Hampshire, South Carolina, they asked bill Clinton. There was a set up a question. I know, I need to say that. What do you think about a Barack Obama's chances are in South Carolina and bill Clinton said, will Jesse Jackson in South Carolina? Oh my God is racist answer. But I was like, you know what? 0 (6m 21s): I see what was going on. I see what's happening. I'm out, I'm out. I'm done. But even though our left the democratic party, I never, well, I haven't, I'm citing that for the Republican party because there's a whole lot wrong with their leadership serving in the military. I support the American people. I despise congressional leadership because of what they've done in trying to separate us on a regular basis. They separate us all the time. The laws separate us, that they create a rich, poor black, white, a gender This that they do that. 0 (7m 9s): And then because the laws don't touch them and, but it has a scratch and a and crabbing at each other. And yeah. Yeah. So I didn't join the Republican party, but I vote for, I voted for a Republican candidate because I thought we were in camp. I, I wasn't going to vote for Democrat candidates. So I had to vote for something. And I thought, you know, maybe the Republican candidates might be able to get in. And actually Follow what their, what their, I want to call it, their values, their, their, their, you know, their little wall of rules, whatever this cost. 0 (8m 1s): But they usually know they usually don't, it's just a wall of rules. It's just a wall of things that we w we believe in, but we're not gonna believe it. So, you know. Yeah. 2 (8m 10s): And I was just listening to Simon Sinek, talk about the military. He does a lot of work with them. Then he also works with corporate America. And when he said that he loves about the military is that he's never hugged more people. He's never cried with more people. And there's this sense of like a brotherhood and community. And it's not, our ideas have to be exactly aligned. Like it's so much bigger and deeper than that. And it's a lot harder to divide them. Like it's a family unit where outside of that, it's like, well, what do you think on this subject? What do you think on this subject? Who did you vote for? Like, can I trust you? And it's, that's so superficial. 2 (8m 51s): So I think that's like one, one of the many beautiful things about the military would you? Cause obviously that's like, that's a very dangerous task to sign up for. I feel like there's a lot of courage that has to be instilled in a person to, to, you know, volunteer for their community or their country. And then coming out as like a political commentator and sharing your opinions. Like that's also takes a certain level of courage and bravery in today's world. It's like a, it's a different kind of bravery, but it's still bravery. So when did you, I guess, when did you decide to take this path on becoming like a political commentator radio host, a opinion share and did the military kind of help you with that? 2 (9m 36s): Or is that like a, are you wired this way? 3 (9m 41s): Nope, Nope. Nope. I got out of the military in 97 and I really didn't get into this until 2007. Well, 2007 is when I changed parties, but I really didn't get super active until maybe 2011, 2012. And that's when I sort of hit my peak, I guess I, you know, whatever somebody asked me because I have been on Sean Hannity's radio show and I'd been on a couple of, of the TV shows to express my opinion about certain things. 3 (10m 31s): And somebody came to me and they were like, let me produce the Wayne Dupree show. Oh, great. Right. And we just do three hours, three hours. Really? Geez. Yeah. That's intense. That's a lot. But then we were like, well, you know, we got the commercials and that I said, okay, all right. All right. All right, let's do it. And we started in may. We started out with that and I got more time on TV and I got more time on the radio side. But like I said before, when trying to get into other radio networks, they had their groups. 3 (11m 19s): So they wouldn't let anybody else in. They wouldn't let anybody else in. And there were so many voices out there. And I know before I even start it again and it wasn't a military, I just came on. I think the Trayvon Martin bang was the one that the Trayvon Martin situation was the one that kind of started everything for me because I saw it a little bit differently where the Democrats are saying, yeah, the guy hunted him down on like the, but I was looking at okay. 3 (11m 60s): So how did he, how did he get to that place? What did he do to get into that situation? That's, you know, that's the difference is between me and some other people. I, I try to find out, okay, if the police beat him up, what was he doing to, to the police before they, you know, what happened? So these other networks wasn't letting me in, even though people knew me, they weren't letting me in. So I created my own, I created my own and I created my own radio network. Are you using my four Oh one K that's what I was working in corporate America. I use my own 401k. 3 (12m 41s): I had a I I brought in like maybe 25, 26 shows, different shows. I use my social media to promote those shows. And the network was called, we are America radio. So if you, if you use the, the first letter is a reach to those words is a war. We are America radio war. And you know, people were like, Oh my God. Yeah, man. That's cool. That's cool. I dunno if you remember live three 65, but last three 65 used to do podcasts and all that stuff. We became the number one political radio network on live three 65. 3 (13m 25s): And things just took off after that. But you know, when you get into the age of gas lighting, and when you get into the age of your meat, butchers, people don't want to hear what's going to sustain them. They just, so individuals like me and others, they push us off to the side and then they take the next best thing, you know, for that season. So, 1 (13m 58s): Yeah, that's got to be a very difficult, but I think we're in such a cool place where you see these independent like media. And I guess you can say company, but sometimes it's like a really small group of people, right? And they're getting way more listens, way more eyeballs than these mega networks that used to be our staple. So I think it's really cool that you, if you're a determined enough, you can kind of create the audience and be powerful. And I love what you're saying about like your, for the American people, because I hate, I hate the two party system I really do. And I always say, I'm like, Politically, Homeless like, I don't belong anywhere. And it's so interesting to me, like humans are, we're so complicated. 1 (14m 41s): Everyone is so complicated. We have our life story that has created our view of the world. And no two are the same. So to think that there's two buckets buckets, and you have to agree down the line for them to welcome you with open arms is a little ridiculous to me. And it's like, I feel like we should look at every topic individually and then assess that. And just because maybe you're pro gun doesn't mean that you are also religious, right? Like why, or how are those connected? So I hate that we were in such a place, 0 (15m 16s): Right? No guns and bullets. 1 (15m 19s): And I just, I hate the word, such a place that it's like it just so polarizing. And we came to a place that like, friends are not friends anymore and married couples are having problems. And it's like, it's so there's so much more than these, these just topics, right? Like why, why do you believe the things that you believe? Because those are interesting questions, right? Like, why is it that you are a pro second amendment? You talk about that. Why is it that you're pro free speech or anti-censorship or anti-government or anti-big court, right? Like there's like your life story behind that. If that makes sense. 0 (15m 58s): No, it does. It does. And was crazy. I was raised up in church. My father was a pastor. My mom was 72, the superintendent. So all I knew was church, a lot to do with about all I knew is what I was being told. All I, all I knew is that if you didn't accept Jesus Christ, you're going to help. Didn't matter who you weren't. If you didn't accept, we just got to do, we're going to help. And that's it. When I went to the military and I was on my own, I learned so much about everything else. And I was like, wait a minute. Because, because when I was younger, people used to go around witness and the people to try to bring them to Jesus Christ. 0 (16m 44s): Now, read this, read that, let me sit down and talk to you. Okay. But when I went in to the military, I started talking to people of different religions, learning what they believe. I came to the realization. I was like, I can't force what I believe on that person, because what that person believes, they probably think it's, it's true for them. What makes me the know at all over what they already know and what you know. So that's where I am. 0 (17m 27s): That's why I am Politically right now. I don't try to force what I believe on somebody else. I let I do more listening now then. And I probably, well, actually I've learned to listen. I've learned to listen in all facets of life, relationships, political, everybody. So what I'm trying to say is I don't believe that I'm better than anybody else, even though the political system that I'm in thinks that some of the people are better than me. 0 (18m 16s): And, but I don't, you know, I don't fight the system. I want to, Oh my God, girl. I want to really fight the system. But I have mine, whatever, you know, these people, they think they know it all. And that's that, that's what I keep losing elections because they think that they know it all and they don't spend any time talking to anybody or listen to anybody. They think I'm rich. I I've, I've done all this. I would have accumulated all of this. I know how to do, but if you haven't lived and you don't know what that person's condition is, you can't bring them up on your level. And even, you know, even if you bring them, but even if you bring them up on your level and they haven't came up in the same way that you did is it's not going to affect them the same way you bring up to the top of a mountain and they get up there and they see it now of a sudden they going to roll right back down because they don't have to sustain power that you got to get up there. 0 (19m 15s): So I become a whole lot of smart in my older age. That's, that's probably what it is. 2 (19m 23s): And it's just realizing that you don't know everything. I think there is a lot of, a lot of just wisdom in that in not knowing and not making assumptions and not thinking that you are the absolute barometer of what is good in what is bad and what is evil and what is true. And all of these things, it's, there's a lot of gray in human existence. And no one wants to acknowledge that it's like these things are just like the Holy grail in you are not allowed to question that. And that's again with the, with the Politically Homeless thing. It's so funny because like I had tweeted some things earlier in 2020, and it got like a lot of more like conservative people that started following me and they'll follow me in the link DME, but they're like, well, I can't talk to you though, because you did Porn and I'm like, so this one thing and does my humanity essentially. 2 (20m 20s): I'm no longer person to these people. And I like that. It's just so interesting because it's weird. I feel like traditionally speaking, at least like the conservatives, everyone's like, how can you agree with anything that they say, when you, when you're in that line of work, because most of them tend to be religious and then therefore kind of cast down what you do. And I was like, well, that's true. But also I feel like they are, they tend to be like less regulatory. So it's like, these companies are a super left, right? Like Instagram and Twitter, like they skew hard left, but yet there are the ones that are deep platforming. A lot of people like myself, but they're also the people that are like sex workers where I'm not yet. 2 (21m 4s): No, I'm very careful. No, no, no. I'm like, I read those terms of service with a magnifying glass, because it's like, if you do feel like you have some kind of message you're trying to get out there, it it's ego that gets you kicked off. It's like, well, I'm going to stick it to the man, improve that this is my freedom to do something. And then I get kicked off and then I, I start crying about it. Well, 0 (21m 29s): Right. So there's always 2 (21m 31s): A way there's always a way you can get your message across without being so combative without breaking the rules. There's always ways. But yeah. So you see these girls getting kicked off mostly it's like Instagram. Like they are the ones that go really heavy with it. And again, they skew heavily, heavily left. And then you surprisingly get the conservatives that are like, well, although I don't agree with that. I don't think that it's, anyone's rule like obligation to de platform these people or to take away their livelihoods. And I feel like that's such a paradox. Like no one really saw that coming. Have you seen what's happening with, with PornHub? All of that, that drama. 0 (22m 12s): I saw a story. Well, I saw him in a story with the, with the credit card thing. I really didn't go deep into the story, but I saw the credit card thing. Not accept in math. 2 (22m 30s): Yeah. So visa and MasterCard. Yeah. Both of them pulled out. And that was because like this one activist group got really loud and again, it's complicated. Humans are complicated. So there were some really troubling, like videos that got leaked and, you know, illegal, like abusive, all of that, all of that stuff. But that stuff's also on Facebook. Right. So that exists there. Okay. 0 (22m 56s): Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So if they aren't accepting those cards, how do they stay afloat? Or is that what they're trying to do? They're trying to choke them out and yeah. Okay. Okay. 2 (23m 16s): Yeah. It's, it's kind of like forcing them to shut down and I mean, meanwhile, there's still a ton of tube sites. So I was just curious if you were following it in like what your opinions were. 0 (23m 25s): I know about it. I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2 (23m 30s): And what happened with parlor? Right? It's like we have this group of people that disagree with your platform, not necessarily with the content, but with your platform platform and we're going to take it down. So 0 (23m 41s): What happened with a telegram? Right? You go on to Google and Android are being sued by a watchdog group because they are the moderation isn't happening on telegram. Like it wasn't happening on parlor. So they are suing Android and Apple because they won't take telegram out of their store. Yeah. I saw that yesterday. Okay. 2 (24m 14s): Oh, that's so interesting. So I guess who's in favor of these things. So with the Porn hub thing is, again, it's so complicated because I'm not, I'm not a fan of free explicit content. I think that there should always be a paywall. And I think that when you are allowing people to upload certain material that that needs to be verified, I think that should have happened a long time ago just to protect the people that are most vulnerable. And then when it comes to Parlier again, it's like as long as no, one's actually, you know, inciting actual violence, I don't see an issue, but you get these people that are just in, in support of shutting down these billion dollar companies, billion dollar companies can disappear overnight because a small group of people have a problem with your, your ecosystem, if you will. 2 (25m 4s): Yeah. 0 (25m 5s): Yes. And that time in American to me, well, that's how a lot. Well, that's how a lot of conservatives for you with the left because on Twitter, which that was their template is so crazy is that people follow you. I follow you because I agree with what you talk about. And I want to know more. I want to find out more and I want to support you. Okay. All right, there we go. But on Twitter, they are stopping me from seeing you, because I agree with you, but they allow the people that hate you to see what you are doing so they can complain and report you. 0 (25m 57s): So three or four weeks later, I'm like, well, where did she go? I haven't seen her. I don't know. And then it could be like, you might be a, you might be the platform. Are you, you might be shadow banned it. And it's like, I used to see her stuff at all the time that I've followed her, but the tolls are seeing more of her because it's a backwards thing. It's like, if you don't want to see something, mute it, block it on saving it. But Twitter allows these hate groups to find you and to troll you and to report to you or create some type of lies on you or bait you into an argument. 0 (26m 51s): I girl used to argue on Twitter all the time. When I first started, I was afraid of Twitter and Facebook all the time or used to be on Facebook. And I always afraid of Twitter, literally, because I thought I'd moved too fast. If it was just a, you know, it's like a highway on Rancho highway, you got to move, 4 (27m 11s): Move, move, you know? 0 (27m 14s): And, but just as soon as I got into and I was like, okay, this is kinda cool. And then as able to get my voice out, just like what you're doing right now, get your voice out. And people were like, you know what? I, I like what he's saying, let me follow him. My followers come in. Boom, boom, boom, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Then I said something about share how dare you hear? And I know it was like a Thursday night. I know it was a night because the way that her fades came back, I mean, girl, I thought, I thought I had downloaded some type of a virus because, because her friends came at me light the Roman Legion army, you know, I was like, wait a minute. 0 (28m 8s): Where did all these people coming from? And they were hitting bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. I was like, ah, and this is how and Twitter is kinda changed the way that they do things now. But people were buying followers for me in Russian. So I'm seeing Russian names. Why should they follow you? Russian ain't Follow in Russia. They Vology Russian ecology. And I was like, they are trying to get me banned because all these people are following me in. And, and then somebody is going to say to you, I'm buying all these followers. 0 (28m 48s): So I, so I had to, I had to lock my account. So to have those followers kept running into the wall and then, you know, I always, like, I never bothered share a gift. I never bothered care. Since 4 (29m 4s): That I have it. I haven't bothered her. I let him go. 0 (29m 8s): Yeah. Hey girl, do what you got to do. I ain't bothering, you know, or that I never forget that. And I forget that, but yeah, I don't fuck. I don't frustrate anybody online anymore. I don't because they don't know me. I don't know them. So I don't know whether they're trying to 'cause some of the most part, they work in groups. So if one person starts fussing with you and they get you, then they've got another one and another one and now they're now they're start reporting you. And then they get you kicked off for a suspended. So I was like, I ain't Follow so I'm glad that you, I'm glad that you have gotten, I'm glad that you are smart. 0 (29m 56s): Hi I mean, 'cause not a whole lot of people will say, what'd you just say it about, I said, I'm going to show a lot of time to be in the game. You got to be in the game and you can't go out here acting like the other side and expect that you're going to get away with it. They've been doing it for a long time. They write in the rules, it's their platform. It's what they do that. And that's why I signed up a parlor and CloudHub. And in some other ones, I can express what I want to wear the conservative audience. But I can also talk about what I believe in. 0 (30m 36s): Even if I have to use code words, you know, I can use specific words because they get in trouble. So I have to use a different type of words in this category just to maintain state. I'm surprised. Honestly, we treat me in you. I'm surprised that I'm still here. I've lost a 130 followers on your 30,000 followers. 2 (30m 58s): I thought so when I looked at your account, when, before this, I was like, Whoa, he's down a whole lot. And I was like, I know I saw a different number, like just recently. 0 (31m 7s): And I was up to like 512,000 and w and the crazy thing about that one is between August in between August in January, they, they kept me between five Oh eight and five 12. I couldn't get above a certain thing, but in parlor, I, I got close to 700,000 going on 710,000 before that was shut down. So just as soon as that goes back up, I was in a start rolling back up again. But yeah, they, I don't complain. I don't complain on Twitter anymore. 0 (31m 48s): I, I knowledge that I tell people, but I don't complain about it. And, you know, I tell people it's theirs. Not that I'm not gonna cry. It's theirs. They created it. They got the rules. Is there, I didn't create anything. I'm just using it. At least. I know that. 2 (32m 8s): Yeah. It's so interesting. So back when I first started in the industry and started like my social media accounts or whatever, I was just, I just had the mindset of like growing my account. Like how can I get the most followers as possible? What do they want to see? What's clickbait, all of these things. So that meant like posting explicit things and reposting companies. And I didn't think anything of it. I was just like, sure, like, let's just do what everyone else is doing. And that's totally loud. Like, there are some crazy retweets you can see on Twitter, not in my room. Like even when I was in the industry, I was like, Oh my God, you're posting that, that like, I know it was on the internet, but this is like, it's different. 2 (32m 53s): And that's totally rewarded with growth and engagement and all of these things. And then once I started, I guess, like redefining what I thought was okay for myself. Like not for anyone else that you can do what you want. I'm not like judging these other performers, but for myself, I believe firmly in paywall. So I don't want to say that and then not do it. So I cleaned up my entire Twitter, Twitter account got rid of everything explicit, even now when I like to promote my other work. Like it's like in a very like tasteful fashion, like it's like a tick tock video or something, right. Like it's nothing crossing a line in my mind. And I do that. And then I start sharing more of like myself, like my mind, my thoughts, like my real life. 2 (33m 36s): And then all of a sudden that's when I get a shadow band and I'm like, there's this other stuff that could questionably be more harmful for the community, write on social media than just me tweeting an opinion or whatever it is or following certain accounts. Cause I think that also plays into it. It's like who you follow? They start like looking at you. And then all of a sudden, yeah. Like my numbers, like I couldn't get over like three 80 for a really long time. And I would like lose people as fast as I got them. And then I would like, you disappeared for a while, like GAD disappeared for a while recently. And I'm like, I follow them. 2 (34m 16s): So how am I not seeing them? I just think it's so interesting. Like what we were deciding to reward and not reward. Okay. 0 (34m 25s): Right, right. Yep. Yep. I I'm serious. It's like, I Follow to know more, to watch more, to listen more and to learn more and then you're going to stop me from doing it because you're trying to break my will and you want me to leave or you don't want people to know, or you don't want people to learn about what I have to say or what I'd been through and where I am right now, how I can when I completed my arc, but how I'm working on where I am, which could help somebody else. 0 (35m 14s): But you can damn sure promote these shows out here and put, put a, you can put a shining spotlight on these individuals, these hateful individuals, but for somebody else that has another, that, that other side of the coin information of a bent, you don't want nobody hear that. And you know, that, that just sucks. That that just sucks, period. How social media is right now. And they're trying to squeeze us. They're trying, they are trying to squeeze every bit of life. That's well, I don't know what life, but I'm trying to squeeze every bit of information that we have so that they can only think one way with blinders on, you know, and they just want a one that you just want to do all the on the Island. 0 (36m 13s): They just want it all on an Island. Just listening to what they have to say, because they believe they are the King of rural or of information. And I don't know, I don't know whether they're trying to build robots or not. I dunno. 2 (36m 26s): I think too, when you're, when you're, I guess punishing for a lack of better words, like anyone that strays from the ideological herd as well, you're not like giving people room to grow and like really cultivate like who they are, because that's what we'd like learn the most about ourselves is when we're challenged or faced with opposition. And we're like, it gives you a chance also to humanize the other, the other person, right? Like if you have everyone saying like, this is bad, this is wrong. And we're going to strip them away of like their right to like this, you know, virtual town square, if you will, you're a making that person less than right. 2 (37m 8s): Like that's, I feel like that's going to be a really slippery slope that we're going to have to deal with to, and you see that now with people saying like, anyone who voted for Trump has to go in this list. And I was like, well, not everyone's the same. Like, it's a very complex group. Just like, not everyone that voted for Biden, like is, you know, an Antifa supporter. Like that's also a ridiculous, right. We are all humans and we're doing the best that we can. Yeah. It's it's 0 (37m 34s): Because almost like everybody, everybody, like I did not go to the Capitol. 2 (37m 42s): Right. I didn't either. I was in North Carolina, 0 (37m 44s): You are in North Carolina. I was in Maryland, but we didn't go. Right. You know that wasn't us. 2 (37m 55s): I win, I win. All of that was happening. I had so many people come in. They're like, well, why aren't you commenting on that? So that was like, first of all, that's not my job. I'm not a political comment. I'm just a regular human sharing. My, my thoughts on a daily basis. But it was like, yeah, I think that, that was probably not a good luck. That was wrong. I'm a kid. I don't support violence at all. And I think people that have experience with violence would also say it should probably be a last resort. I don't think that that was that situation. I think we're a very far from like a necessary revolution, you know? Like people are like, it's time. I'm like, it's not 0 (38m 29s): No, no. Right, right. Oh, man, that really gets me all the time because they talk about that is what 3 (38m 36s): They want. But these people that won't even sign up for the military, they don't know anything about war. They don't, they didn't know anything about a nation. You know? So when I'm on my show and I'm like, okay, so when are you here? That first bullet we have about our hate, you know, Oh, are they for real? Okay, I'm going to home. Hey, I'm going to home. I'm out, I'm out. You know, or windows, rubber bullets are hitting you. So I've what, what, I'm not going to say. 3 (39m 17s): It really hurt me, but to hear, or to watch so many people online that I have seen that are Trump supporters. Try to say that most of that, most of those people are Antifa. I covered it. Candice. I covered it. I was using Seaspans cameras. And then we covered it. And we saw Trump supporters walking through, like, it was a regular old day taking a photo, Hey, look in the photo. 3 (40m 1s): And they thought that they were on a tour thing, walking through it. Also what's the end point of that, your end game. But just saying that it was and Pepa that was doing all the damage and stuff. The girl that was killed the U S air force person, she wasn't Antifa. She was a mag, a supporter. And I believe, I don't agree with her being shot, but I watched what she was doing. She was going through the window. She was going through the window and that's who, whoever it was, they could have shot at a wall. 3 (40m 45s): They could have shot it to ground. They could have a shot at a time. They could have shot around her. They, they could've let her know you're going to be farther. I'm going to shoot. They did. But I saw were saying that everybody that was doing on that stuff is on TV. That was a air force person. And a lot of those people were Trump supporters. They were Trump supporters going in there. And you know, I, I just have to, I just have to break myself away from that. And I said, what I need to do? And that's it, man, beat these people, like you said, it's right. 3 (41m 28s): Is left. I dunno, how many of us are left in the middle? But you got to that far, you've got a far less the far, right? Like to hear that, that far. Right. But if they are far right, they are for a very far right. You say that you don't believe something that they, that they are for. They will kick you off. Well, you ain't a conservative man or are you not a Christian or wait a minute. You, who are you to kick me off of the conservative platform? Because I don't think that you are now we're doing the right thing, you know? Well, or sometimes I get what's wrong with you. What happens to you? Because there must be something wrong of me. 3 (42m 8s): You're not exactly right. Right. What's wrong with you? Or can, is there going to be like, I thought you were better than this and I didn't do anything. What are you talking? You are better than in it or canvas. Then you got, I'm unfollowing. You, you don't have to now, should I just do it as a matter of fact, let me help you. But I'm like the, they, I don't know whether they feel their vet so much important or what, but this is the concern. 3 (42m 48s): This isn't the conservatism that I saw him back in 2007, the conservatives of death thought that I saw him in 2007, is that drew me. I was like, that's what I want. The, one of the stuff that is today, I said to you, and I'll say to anybody, anywhere they are may have, may have mimicked the left because they don't know how to fight the left. And when the argument of logic and common sense, we say that we're the party of logic and common sense. 3 (43m 28s): But the people on the right don't understand culture and they, that they haven't put anything into understanding culture. So they make fun of it and they demonize it. And now that they do, they try to imitate it. So like when Kanye came on the scene, yeah, we got Kanye on the side. I'm like, y'all, don't understand God. And he's not doing this for This Kanye got us records coming out. He got some shoes and clothes, anyone to show up when a 50 cent. Okay. We have to say came out. 3 (44m 9s): We got fit to sit in on our side. And then I was like, hold on. And then what? Two, three days later, I ain't vote for that mom. They, like I said, they try to mimic and use whatever influence that they can to show C we are right. But you're not because you don't know really how to play the game. You don't have to, if you really don't know how to imitate him either, but you imitate them too. The point where people are like, Oh, why should I even join you? Are you copying them? So what makes you better than that? 3 (44m 52s): That, that's what I see from my side. And you know, that's why I get what happened to you. I thought that your, yeah, I'm struggling Sarah with him up here. You know, I still think logic comes in here. I don't have to be famous. I don't have to be on a wall. When I went to the white house, I was shocked because I didn't wanna be on TV between mean, and then I want you to be on TV because there are some things that I don't agree with president Trump on a day, but I've interviewed him five times. He's a cool dude could do, but I know the left and I know you see what they're trying to do. 3 (45m 38s): You know, it, the FBI is going and they found a friend of mine who put out a meme in 2016 after we, I showed up at his door two mornings ago and arrested him. What was the meme? The meme was. And I think it was a joke, but the mean, what don't vote for Hillary, these are the days that you are supposed to vote. So show up on these days instead of these days, I think it was a joke. I don't know if it was a joke or night, but that was back in 2016. It's to neuro is 2021. 2 (46m 17s): So is that I feel like I briefly saw that I've been like trying to be very mindful of the content that I'm watching. Cause I just, I get so easily like angry right now. So I just, I'm trying to like, be like, what can we control? Does it really affect you? What's real. And I take that out of the equation. So I'm trying to be more mindful, but I saw something with something like, like phone calls or texting to vote. Is that the same thing as the meme situation? They are unrelated. Yeah. 3 (46m 51s): Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It was. That was also included in there too. The, the, the, the texts and the vote to get some more information, this stuff, but I still think it was, I don't think that was sick. I don't think that was super serious though. 2 (47m 7s): I think the problem with that again, I don't really know a lot about it, but if they are trying to say is, I guess is the issue that they are trying to say that there was just a fraud with that election in particular. Okay. So if we keep doing this, if we keep saying like the, our elections are so unsecure and fragile, that one person can, you know, create a meme and undue democracy or that one political party can have so much power that they, you know, they, they steal the election. Both parties are saying this, right? Like everyone said, Trump didn't win out. Now the other side's saying Biden didn't win. Like at the end of the day, the American people are suffering because now we feel like we actually, you know, don't have a safe democracy. 2 (47m 55s): So like both parties just to have to stop. Like at some point everyone's gotta be like, enough is enough. You guys are pandering both sides. And there's a bunch of us in the middle and were just a boating on who we think doesn't suck the most in life. You know what I mean? Like very rarely I think, do people get really excited about the candidate? We're like, okay, well we got this guy or we got this guy or we got this lady or we got this. Like I actually a surprisingly I really liked Tulsi. Gabard right. 0 (48m 23s): Yeah, boy. 2 (48m 24s): Yeah. She is so smart. She served in the military. She is grounded. She is fierce. Like, she's like a lot of things that you would say she should kind of be in charge of a country. I can see it. Like she's respectful, like all the things that you would want. Right. Poise, all of these things. Obviously I am a fan, but everyone will be like, Oh, you are mad. You are. I'm like, I'm not like, I'm, I, I don't tie myself to my thoughts. I know that they can change. I know my beliefs can change. Like this is what I see the situation in this moment. And I'm not tied to it. And people like make you defined by these, by these decisions. And it's like, at some point we need everyone to kinda come in the middle and say, everyone is treating us like garbage right now. 2 (49m 10s): And we need to say enough is enough. Like turn off the news that are you lying to you stop supporting these political candidates that are just creating divisiveness and say like, what matters at the end of the day is the American people, right? Not the people, the top. Okay. 0 (49m 26s): That's the thing. That's the thing. And that's why, that's why I, that's why I tell people. I was like, I question some of the young conservatives out there right now that are trying to run for Congress and run for the Senate. I'm like, maybe you should try a city council first. Maybe you should try on the ground. Some of the state and local seats, because if you really want change, you have to plant roots to grow well. 0 (50m 11s): And the roots have to get stronger before it sprouts and grows into something that is sturdy and strong. You can't start up at the top because yeah, you want to be a Senator. PA want to be a house representative, but those people don't do anything on a state level. They really don't. They can't tell you what to do in your neighborhood, around your house, in your backyard. That's a state and local thing, but so many want the limelight. 0 (50m 51s): So many people want to be praised. And you know, we want to get up there and make a fool of themselves really. But I caution the young conservatives out there to get elected on the local, local and city that I know the jobs aren't sexy. I know they are, who wants to be in a counseling fall of 14 district, you know, whatever. But once you get down here and, and then you see what's happening on the ground, cause I tell you to people on the left, they got that thing. They got that thing down. So many things that happened in, in our neighborhoods and communities right now is because the left is passed some laws. 0 (51m 35s): And we were like, what does that happen? Well, you don't even go to your council meetings, monthly council, you know, you are there to complain. You are there to talk about it. So I try to put C but then again, no, I wants the lesson. Am I they want the prays? Like I said, they want that limelight. They want the spotlight ask for me. I already don't care. I just, I just like, I just like informative talking to people. I'll get back to 2007 or a little bit four, 2007. And I used to, I CSPAN a lot. We used to watch C-SPAN and I used to watch people call in during a certain events and stuff and they talk, I couldn't get through. 0 (52m 21s): I want to get there. I couldn't get there. So I had to have a lot to say a lot to say a lot that I have been seeing, but I couldn't get it out. That's what I tell young people. If you want to get your voice out and get it out, I love what you're doing here because you get to interview a whole lot of different people with different ideas in different ways that they do things and stuff. And you're, well-rounded that way we, we, and I'm, I'm not saying this to blow your head up or anything, but I think we need more people like you, because I can't tell whether you are this or that Politically are not. 0 (53m 4s): And you know, it doesn't matter. You get information out. And then that allows the people that watch, okay, let me go research this. Let me go research that if we don't agree with that and I don't have to accept it, but if I do agree with it, okay, fine. At least you're on the right path in bring in that depth of information, sort of people can be informed. That's what we need. More people, more people need to be in a form, but then you're also are a danger to social media because social media don't want, they don't want you to inform anybody. They want mindless shiftless bots out there that don't have a clue that sit in front of the computers, drinking you. 0 (53m 53s): Who's in red bull eating Chinese food all the time, not changing any underwear and just, yeah. You know? Oh yeah. Well it's two o'clock let me get back on. You know, so I've S I've seen so much. 2 (54m 15s): I appreciate it. I definitely got into when I first, I would say maybe the beginning of 2020, I think I've felt a little bit into a few traps where I sided too hard, you know, with, with the right. And then that like fall asleep painted me in like this way that, and it's not necessarily my fault or their fault, but it's just like, the way that things are right now is that if you share certain opinions or retweet certain people that you get put in that bucket and it's like, well, I have not all, I'm not just those things. Or I don't agree down the line. Like I do. Like again, Politically, Homeless, I can't say it enough. 0 (54m 54s): I like that. I, you know what, I'm going to start. I'm going to hashtag the hell out of that. I'm going to hashtag the hell out of them. And I like that because I was using free agent, but Politically Homeless is kinda cool. 2 (55m 12s): I'd take everything in at an individual level. But I think that something that was really cool that recently happened, and I think a positive out of the whole game stop nonsense. That is transpiring is we're seeing unity for like the first time, since I can remember, we had like AOC and Don Jr. Jr. Agreeing. Right? And I mean, Ted Cruz tried to jump in it, but she said no to that, but she was not you. But I think it's like, wow, this could be such a powerful moment for everyone. This can be such a healing moment for everyone. Like there, something really fishy happened and we need to investigate it. 2 (55m 57s): And instead of like highlighting our differences and where we disagree, like let's serve the people that serve the little guy. So I really hope that This what is a really shitty thing for a lot of people that lost a lot of money can actually, a lot of good can grow out of it. Right. I saw you are covering it a little bit. Like where do you see this going? What's happening? How did it happen 0 (56m 22s): To retrieve menu? Hope it gets bigger. And the hope that it wrecks some things. And the reason why I say that is because wall street has been wrecking America for a long time. The people that won and I've watched so many stories about what, what happened with a mortgage, a the, the housing situation and different things like that to watch these rich people, to watch those elites get like choke on a chicken when they saw what happened to gauge that they are like, yeah, we 6 (57m 2s): Almost got it. Yeah. It's almost down the hall. Wait a minute. 0 (57m 5s): Who's Porn, who's, Porn that water in there? Hey, it's almost filled up wherever we go. 6 (57m 14s): Hey, we'll put them on a water in there now, are you good 0 (57m 17s): To watch this happen? And to watch the groups were like, hold the line. I was like, there was a show that we did for sensor TV is going to be Aaron tonight. And we were like, this is not the last you going to see of it, but you can't stop these gamers. You can't, that's one thing that you can't stop. You can't stop in a game because they'll go here. They'll go here. They'll go there. They will encrypt whatever type of meanings that they have. And then they'll come out. Boom, boom, boom. On Bumble. And, but there is one thing that we all saw that we probably never thought we were ever going to see. 0 (58m 3s): And that was wall street. Or these, these apps shut down the ability to buy stock. You ain't supposed to do that. Yep. And if you can do that, then that means that you somehow some way you now, before I bet you, before the end of the year, there's going to be some type of investigation to find out if some of these places are manipulating those stocks like that. Because if they just vacant, shut you down from buying it, then they can do some other stuff on the inside for us, some of these other companies. 0 (58m 47s): So, you know, but I don't have to have any issue with them. As a matter of fact, I went and bought some stuff too. I went and bought some stuff last night. I was kind of pissed off that I was kind of late though. You were able to buy last night. Yeah. On, on Robinhood. And I bought, I bought about dog Dodge, the coins I bought, I bought that. And then on cash app, they have allowed me to AMC. Okay. AMC, I didn't, I didn't mess with a game stop because I figured a game stop was that, you know, a long way. 0 (59m 33s): I'm not going to get anything out of it. But yeah. With, with AMC, I've been looking at that this morning. So I'm going to be 55, 55 on that one. 1 (59m 45s): Yeah. I, what, what stock was it? When all of this started happening? We, we got in on this one cannabis company, M a S as in, I dunno, I tweeted it. We put it a decent amount of money in it. And soon as that transaction went 0 (1h 0m 3s): Through, it froze 1 (1h 0m 6s): And it was now, it was only sell only, and it wasn't showing you anything. And I was like, Holy cow. And then in within seconds we lost $5,000 0 (1h 0m 16s): Like that. Boom. 1 (1h 0m 17s): And I was like, well, this is, this is kind of scary. And then by the end of the night, we went to like, see what was happening with everything. And it wouldn't even give us access to the account. We couldn't even look at it. 0 (1h 0m 30s): Robin, Robin, a C, C. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's something wrong, I think is that I think something wrong with Robin hood, man. I do a, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I, I used him last night for.dot coin, right? Yeah. I used him last night for that one. But before that I had pulled all my money out of them. I pull them up money out of them and it took me a while to get it. So we'll see. But yeah, I use cash app cash app. 1 (1h 1m 8s): Yup. Okay. Maybe I'll look at that. Yeah, it was, it was really sketchy last night. I was like, I don't like that. Oh, look at you. Okay. 0 (1h 1m 17s): Yeah. Yeah. The guy 1 (1h 1m 20s): Quiet was, was up a good amount this morning, but who knows? We were like, we should find some more of that. 0 (1h 1m 26s): It is down, but what is down low again? Yeah. Yeah. And last name is okay. 1 (1h 1m 38s): What advice? Anyone even no, your own assessments don't get mad at us. The same thing. 0 (1h 1m 44s): Yeah. But it was a trip to, cause I was like, I was like, okay. All right. Okay. All right. I'm not going to look for it. 1 (1h 2m 5s): I was in my eyes are what's happening. And then I Follow port in a way to, I mean, even people that don't follow him, like how do you, how did you not see him yesterday? And he was just going hard. And I'm like, man, I, I like his spirit. You, and then he probably knows some stuff that we don't know. So We'll see how it all kind of unfolds, but it's really a scary, cause I don't know if you were looking at the Reddit thread, but my husband was reading this one guy and it was like, it almost like brought tears to my eyes. It was a really, really sad. So it was at the beginning before, like at the beginning of the squeeze and everyone's like, hold, hold, hold. 1 (1h 2m 45s): And he was like, okay guys. And it's like such a community. Like that's the thing that we use discord channels and these telegram channels. Like people, I don't think understand like how much they mean to the people in them, especially right now when we're in such a place where we don't get to see the ones we love or a friend's like, it's a, it's a very necessary part of being a human. Right. Is that connection. So they're, they're very, very connected and he's, you know, listen, it he's like, listen guys, I know you want me to hold, but I have done really well at this game stock. And I was able to get my parents at a debt and help them with their mortgage. So I do have to pull a little bit out. Don't get mad. I'm going to hold what I can hold. But thank you guys so much. Like this has changed my life. 1 (1h 3m 27s): Like your advice has changed my life. And then he leaves the little that he can go in there and it's like his rep. Right. And he leaves with a little, he can, and then Robin hood freezers the accounts and he's like devastated. This man is just like, I like, that's all I had left. Cause he cleared it again, cleared his parent's debt. And the whole community is like coming together and trying to like figure out like, what do we do? And console this person. And it's like, these are very real people with real lives. And they don't have tens of thousands of dollars to play around with like every, every dollar does matter to this person and we're going to cripple them because some billion hair doesn't like the fact that people are now participating in what they thought was, you know, an elite only game that doesn't seem right to me. 1 (1h 4m 18s): And it's really interesting that you do see some people that are defending like these, these big cats. And you're like, Oh, okay. 0 (1h 4m 26s): Yeah, no, not only defending them, but they, they, they, they are really attacking the smaller people and showing just how different or separate or showing how the, how the divide is so large between them in us and what they really think about us that they have been hiding for so long. So 1 (1h 4m 57s): W I can't remember this particular billionaire's name, but he was on, I want to say like CNBC. And he's like, Oh my gosh, these people just collect. And their government checks, they're just all this bullshit. And like, do you think we want these checks right now? Do you think anyone wants to not be able to work or open their business? Like, I'm sorry, I don't care 2 (1h 5m 18s): What party you're on. If the government forces you to shut your business down, you deserve compensation. Right? Period. Like, I am not a crazy, I'm not an AOC fan. I follow everyone big because I think I just want to be informed. And it was like at the, I want to say halfway through all of the shutdowns, and she's like, said something about sending out these checks to people chose, or is that too socialist to, and like, I don't, I'm not a social pro socialist I'm pro for free markets and capitalism, but a lot, like she is right. She is right. You can't do this one thing and not pay people like you can't, most people don't have that savings. It's just not, it's not feasible. 2 (1h 5m 58s): It's a reality. 0 (1h 5m 60s): No, I agree. I agree to that point because I have been getting made with conservatives because they've been spending all that money. However, I've also seen the hurt of many people with this pandemic and peep, these businesses laid off all of these people. And then the government gives them a certain amount of money. And then the government says, okay, we'll give you a, business's this money. You just have to hire all your people back or pay the penalty on not hiring him. But these companies are paying the penalty for not hiring people back then they are hiring the people back and it wasn't supposed to be like that, but it wasn't the most, you know? 0 (1h 6m 51s): And so even though I want the government to be fiscal fiscally responsible for me, and I'm telling him spending money that they don't have, it's all I'd be brought here that we really needed money. So a lot of people out here, families, maybe I was disconnected to the point. I didn't know that there were soup lines out there. Oh yeah. I didn't, I did not know Candace. I didn't know that people were and in these bag lines in a way, because what do you think about these masks? 0 (1h 7m 32s): Okay. 2 (1h 7m 32s): And the masks. So, Oh man. It's so again, on a reputation I have is that I'm like an anti masker and I'm not an anti masker. Okay. I'm I'm personal responsibility. Like, so my husband's like, very, like, he's like that devil's advocate personality. So whatever I like to think or feel like he goes left of that. And then he like challenges me. And he's like, so what if he's like, what if there's, this is the Spanish flu though. And it it's wiping out half the population. Then what, how do you feel about masks? Cause I get frustrated. Cause here in North Carolina, you just have to wear it to your table and you get to your table and you take it off. 2 (1h 8m 15s): And I'm like with this, but that's 1 (1h 8m 16s): Not doing anything for anyone. Right. Is a lot, if there is a hero, you know what I mean? It's airborne. Okay. So that's my issue is just like there's no, there's no science behind the decision making, at least in where I live. There's not okay. So he's like, so what if it's the Spanish flu? It is taking out half of the population. And then how do you feel about masks? And I was like, I think I still have my stance that it's personal responsibility. That if I felt that there was a 50 50 shot that I was going to die. If I went out to eat, I'm not even if people are wearing hazmat suits, I'm probably not going out to eat. 1 (1h 8m 56s): Like, that's my choice. I'm going to stay at home. I'm going to wash my, my food really well. You know what I mean, to make sure that that's all sanitized and I'm going to be cooking and I'm going to be isolating. And I'm probably going to be taking, I'll be wearing a hazmat suit by choice because I'm scared for my health. Right. So I would take personal precautions to protect myself. I don't think that you will be anything. I don't think that you own me, my health or my safety. I think it's wonderful if you care. I think that's great. And I think we should all be, have like that sense of community. Right. But I don't think that you are obligated to it. So I have a problem with just making it a mandate. 1 (1h 9m 38s): And I truly believe that if you were to just suggest it, like, you know, this is the limited science that we have. Right. And it's suggesting, because again, it's so new. Like we can't say definitively one way or another, it's suggested that it could help and it could save someone's life. Right. And we trust you to be a good part of the community and to care about your other people to do the right thing. I honestly think you would have more people complying that way. If you treated everyone like an adult with the right answer, right. To make their own decision and trusting them that they are caring people and they're smart people and they're going to do the right thing. 1 (1h 10m 18s): I'd think you'd have more people complying, but because you're treating people like children and because you're going back and forth on what the science says, 'cause we had the science say one thing. And then we had the science saying another thing. And then sometimes you have the who that's contradicting the CDC. And then you have the local governments that are not abiding by either the, who are the CDC. Right. The CDC said opened schools a long time. I'm a go. So when you see is so much nonsense, it's hard not to get frustrated. And then you end up getting that. Well, I'm not going to do it because you told me too. Right. And that's not good either. You know, you have to be able to recognize when your it's just your ego and you were being combative, but that's just psychology. 1 (1h 10m 60s): So again, like, I think that like, if I were to be around my grandmother and she didn't have the shot, I would probably wear a mask. Right. Just because I love her. And I don't, if there's even a 1% chance that it helps, then I'm going to do that. But I don't like that. We are telling people that they have to do it and the businesses that they have to do it. Right. So that's a long-winded explanation. 0 (1h 11m 21s): And that's because, because I think the reason why is we got nobody in this household has gotten, it has gotten COVID. But then again, you know, we practice whatever we practice, but I'm not mad at those that don't wear, but I get some of the conservative side telling me, take your mask off. Is that in a car? You know, take your mask off. I need to take my mask off. You know, I, I got a family back home. 0 (1h 12m 4s): I don't know. I don't know where some of that, well, mass don't work. Okay. All right. When I hear, when I hear people say mass don't work and I look at how they wear them, we got them down here. We've got a hole over here. We got our own top of the hate. They are not really wearing it. Right. And I was like, if you don't want to wear it, you don't want to have to, but don't be mad because I'm wearing right. Exactly. Because I want people around me, like, like my mom is 95 and I don't, I would, I wouldn't show up in front of her without my mask. 0 (1h 12m 51s): Just like you said, but also my next door neighbor are the people that deliver groceries and stuff. And I, the reason why I ask you that is because I really haven't really gone anywhere. I mean, I've been on two trips for, for like election stuff. I've been on two trips, but I really haven't gone above and beyond anywhere. We're going to have to go to the supermarket anymore. Cause I use Instacart, you know, I really don't. We order food and stuff like that and whatever, but I just want to see where you were on it. 0 (1h 13m 31s): Because as for me, I believe just like you did, it is personal responsibility. Whether like all of us are in here together. We don't where I'm asking, you know, when, when we go out to the store, if the store requires it, we'll do it. If the store requires, I've just seen too many people on our side, they're trying to take away our freedom. And, but it's a store policy. No, they're just trying to take it away. But it's a store policy. No, no. It's like, if you don't want to go to the store to go to the store, just find another store. You don't have to go to that store instead of just standing there and arguing and stuff. 0 (1h 14m 15s): And I mean, it, it doesn't help the situation or no. 1 (1h 14m 21s): Yeah. And I think forcing the businesses to can be an issue because there are certain business models like it doesn't work for. Right? So like, if you want to take, I mean, and this is again, it's going to sound stupid to some people, but for these people that own the businesses and it's their livelihood and you don't know their, their house could be on the line for this business. So if you're talking about a spa, right, like you can't get a facial with a mask on it doesn't work. And so why are you saying that that person's business doesn't matter because it's like a non essential it's essential to that person. So again, I think it just, it's just whatever you want to do. Like if you, as a business owner wants to take the precautions by all means, do it. And I'll respect your business policies. 1 (1h 15m 2s): And if you, as an individual wants to go out with those new space helmets, you do you, right. That's awesome. I'm like happy for you. I'm happy that you feel safe, but if you have someone and I've seen these videos and I'm sure some people are tweeting them just to get a rise out to people, but you do see some people that might have some mental disorders or impairments or some physical impairments. And they just cannot wear the mask. Right? Like children, especially like certain people like masks are just not going to happen. And we need to also, I guess, accommodate them. Right. So it comes to protecting yourself. 1 (1h 15m 43s): Like I saw a little girl that was getting kicked out of, and she was, I don't know what, what she had, but it seemed like her motor skills were a little bit impaired. And then she was also in a wheelchair and she couldn't wear a mask because she was on an oxygen tank and all of these things. And I think like there's like some level of anxiety and they kicked this little girl in and out of the theatre. And I'm like, this is probably one the saddest things that I've seen because she probably doesn't have a lot to look forward to. Right. Like she's clearly have some struggles that she's she's working with in the movie. Theaters is probably like a, a highlight of her week and they're are so massive. Like we can social distance. Like there's all these other things that we can do. And now we are making a spectacle, a lot of this little girl 'cause we have so much fear instilled into us. 1 (1h 16m 28s): And by all means you can wear your glasses and your double masks and you can just, again, socially distance, there's a there's other things. And I just feel like we're, again, there's just so much divisiveness because it's like a mask anti masker or like triple ply, right? Like that's always, it's always scene. And I'm like, we're all humans at the end of the day, we have individual needs and we need to respect each other. And I don't know, like just see more, like see deeper. 0 (1h 16m 55s): Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that has to be a recommendation sooner or later 'cause we both agree the America that we care more. And for the people, then we do the politicians. Wouldn't that be the American people. If all the American people that care for the American people, then things would be a whole lot of different and no way that there can't tell me that we can't reach that point because we've, we reached a point when we're in trouble as a nation. 0 (1h 17m 37s): And it shouldn't take that. But we do reached a point where we were all a caring people when this nation gets in trouble, nine 11 and hurricane Katrina and different things like that. So its not that we can't, you know, it's just that media and politicians are the people at the top who get a lot of money for keeping us divided. Well, that's what, that's what I keep us divided because they get paid a lot of money to do it. I just wish that so many Americans were understand that a number one we outnumber of the politicians. 0 (1h 18m 22s): We have more. So we literally have more power than the politician. And I'm not saying we need to go and choke, choke them out or anything. But I'm saying, you know, some people say, well we need term limits. You do have term limits. It got our elections vote. The people out, just vote him out. They don't, you don't have to be in office for 50, 60 years. Nobody was supposed to be in office L a M D C lawmaker. What that position was not ever supposed to be a lifetime position. The only position that, that the lead they made was the Supreme court. 0 (1h 19m 4s): You're not supposed to be in a Congress for 55 years United supposed to be in the Senate for 65 years because you can't tell anybody, you can't be in there a 72 years old and said, well, I know some new stuff we can try. No. Now you have you been in there, you haven't done anything. You know, I don't mind to turn to go home. And I don't think that they should be paid. I want to know you want me to get paid and then go back home to your state and do some, I don't think you should be paid at the time because they can increase their wages in Congress, but they can't shut down or stop social media from, from Putting limits on a conservative speak. 0 (1h 20m 2s): You know, they wrote the law, they wrote section two 30 to protect social media 3 (1h 20m 8s): Platforms. Congress did Congress wrote section two 30, check it out to 30 so that they could not be sued for stuff that was on their platform. Yet these platforms are using to 30 to silence us, but we can't Sue them because they're protected. 1 (1h 20m 29s): Is that similar to like a utility two 30? So like if you like have a phone line, then that company is not responsible for what is like said or it's like, yeah, right. Yeah. And it's not a utility. 3 (1h 20m 45s): Right? Right. And, and, and, and, and that's what, you know, some people look at it like that. Look at these, well, what are you? Are you a utility or are you a publisher? Or what, what I mean? But then again, if Congress signed it, Congress can get rid of it three times in the last month and a half to two months, Zuckerberg Jack from Twitter person from Google has been up there to Congress, nothing come from it 1 (1h 21m 23s): Because they don't know what's happening. Right. 3 (1h 21m 26s): They don't know what's going on, but then we keep losing followers. Why? Because these platforms, they have that much power behind them. We can't take them down and you can't remove them. We can't do this. Can't do that. So 1 (1h 21m 42s): Do you think a political candidate could ever win that wasn't, that didn't like fully belongs to either party and that didn't spend their campaigning time focusing on how bad the opposition was. And rather just said what they thought they could do. And you know, their dream for, for the people do think that we're so far away from that because of the bureaucracy and that how like the wheeling and dealing is happening behind the scenes, is that impossible for someone to go in almost like a white Knight, like, is it 3 (1h 22m 18s): Can't happen anymore? 1 (1h 22m 20s): Can't have it anymore. 3 (1h 22m 23s): What'd they did that. Trump, Trump, Trump went in Trenton, really? It wasn't a Democrat or a Republican. And he went in not knowing anybody, anything, and Washington, no player. That's why, if you look at all the stuff that he did, economic, economic wise, foreign policy wise socialized, now let's move that, that, that his tweets out of the way, and just look at his policies, okay. 3 (1h 23m 3s): Things got better until the pandemic things got better to the left were like, we don't care. We don't care that there were more jobs. We don't care. People will make it a moment. We don't care about the Trump tax cuts that we're putting money back in jail. We don't care. We don't want to mess. It was just too personal. At that point, it was personal. And your question about somebody coming up, they'll have allegiance to anybody carefree, you know, I want to change this. 3 (1h 23m 45s): I'm going to change that. I'm going to do it for, y'all not no more because both sides took down on Trump with the help of a medium, both sides took down Trump. 1 (1h 24m 0s): So with, I don't, I'm not like super familiar with it, but I want to say it was Brett Weinstein with the unity unity party, I want to say is Bret Weinstein. And 3 (1h 24m 16s): So he was 1 (1h 24m 17s): Kind of like campaigning for a third party and won that. Wasn't like so easily defined by like ideology is just like, you know, the best person wins kind of a thing. And then he got de platformed from, I think it was Facebook for it. And he's like, you know, he's not conservative. He's not a liberal, I guess if, if you were to put him somewhere, he might actually be like, you know, a little left of center. And he got D platform for even suggesting a third party. Meanwhile, we have, you know, Burt the birthday party now that I guess maybe still exists. I'm not really sure. But do you see that maybe is a possible solution is creating a third party. 1 (1h 24m 60s): If enough money goes behind 3 (1h 25m 1s): It, now 1 (1h 25m 3s): There's just too many on either, either end that are already like, 3 (1h 25m 8s): And so again is that there are already full parties right now. Okay. They're already for you guys are a Democrat party. You go to the Republican party, you got to Trump supporters and then you got to be the AOC socialist side. 1 (1h 25m 24s): Okay. But I feel like that's also problematic because like, there's still like in the I now, but that's like, I mean, I feel like if you were to put me, <inaudible> a lot of it, but like say you don't have a chance, like there's, there's no chance. Like Porn, you know, Jorgensen, like yeah. 3 (1h 25m 48s): Yeah. I saw that name on the, on the ballot. I'm like, who the hell is that? I was like, this is gotta be a joke. Okay. Whatever I'm I had 1 (1h 26m 5s): John McAfee on like a few months back and he's like a firm believer. Like he doesn't vote. He thinks the whole thing is like nonsense. And like, it's just kind of like smoke and mirrors and really like the people that are making the decisions and affecting everyone's lives. Like we don't know who they are and they're not voted in. Part of me was like a little bit relieved with that because it's like, all of these scare tactics don't really mean anything at the end of the day. Right. And then when he brought up the point, he was like, well, when has the president like really changed your life? And for me, I was like, I actually can't name that. 1 (1h 26m 44s): So yeah, there was like a little bit of reassurance in that. And then like, kind of like a sense of like, Oh, okay, like it's not going to be the end of the world if that this person's in. Or if this person's in. And I think we could all take a little bit away from that and be like, you know what? I'm in control of my life and my happiness. And it's not healthy to be on Twitter for 20 hours a day. 3 (1h 27m 6s): No, no, no, no. But you know, I mean, I was saying, even though some might, even though some might not have agreed with me and Biden, would it be Biden had buying one, but I'm saying back then, if Biden would have won, I was like, okay, well just go with the flow again. You know? I mean, Politics is so hypocritical that both sides steal from each other and then a say the same thing about each other every four years or every year. The same thing. 3 (1h 27m 47s): Well, Barack Obama was the worst president ever. Okay. All right. So now it's Donald Trump. It's the worst president ever. Okay. All right. Okay. Alright. I mean, it's a never ending thing. I had a friend that left Politics one time. He was like, it's never going to fix the show. It's never gone. You are never going to have a unity. You can't, you can't have unity in Politics. Why is that? Because both sides think that they're right. 1 (1h 28m 18s): Oh, I always think about, did you ever watch game of Thrones? Did you get to do that? Okay. So, you know, it's the season eight when Tyrians and like locked up in prison and John goes to visit him and he's kind of explaining to Nereus his mindset. And he's like, what ain't you, if you thought that you were almost like this beacon of light and that you, you were a goodness, you we're going to break the wheel. Like you we're going to make life better for everyone. Wouldn't you burn down everything that God, in your way of, of that heaven essentially. And its like that can be applied to pretty much everyone in power. 1 (1h 28m 59s): It's like everyone thinks that they see something, everyone else's missing. And they, I think, I think most of them are, or some of them are well-intentioned, but it's like, there's this thing that happens when you're voted in and then you stay in office for such a long time, it almost gets like your ideas get cemented in. And then you feel like the sense of duty and obligation to the people that voted you. And so it just gets further and further instilled and you're less likely to hear someone else out. And we all think this. So if we all can just admit, we have an inkling of, you know, whether we're a good or bad or we were doing the right thing, I'm the wrong thing. But you should always have to be open to the idea that you might be wrong. 1 (1h 29m 42s): And so long as you're open to the idea that you might be wrong, then you now have open communication and you are serving the people that voted for you because you are not so invested in your ideas. So 0 (1h 29m 54s): That's a thing. Just want to see if everybody was open. That's the problem. That is the problem that it's a sickness. Is that everybody can't me open up here. 1 (1h 30m 9s): Do you think part of it is maybe because a certain personality type is drawn to like leadership in that sense or a way to Politics okay. 0 (1h 30m 23s): Drawn to, 1 (1h 30m 25s): Yeah. I like a certain personality. Like maybe you score a Hi on like a narcissist test, like a lot higher than everyone else. And you're like, I I can fix problems. And me, me, me, me, me. And like, that's why we have so much tension up there is because we have just a bunch of the same personality types. 0 (1h 30m 43s): Yeah. Because yeah, because you can't get any, you can't get any common sense solutions to those people because like you said, they all know better. They all know better. No, because like I said earlier, they have never been in our shoes, but because they have reached the pinnacle or they have the golden spoon, they know what's better because they have that. 0 (1h 31m 23s): But yeah, you can raise some money and put them in, in, in that position. Like any movie, a movie trading places, you can put somebody in that position, but the neck have to stay in that position because they didn't grow up like that person and as a spoon. So yeah, it's I we all want Politics to be better. We all want Congress to be better. We all want our government will be better, but I don't know if Pandora's going to allow for that. The box has been open. 0 (1h 32m 4s): It has been opened for a long time and we don't have anybody to, to shut it. And then if it does shut, can everything roll back to what it used to be a history says no, because once you have knowledge of certain thing, you can try to get back, but you'll never be bet. You know, you can try to create a atmosphere of what it was. What would the knowledge of what you already learned? And I never be the same. So you got to keep adapting, you have to keep adapting and you got to keep on trying to when people, but going to make what we started off the conversation with every try to win people. 0 (1h 32m 52s): Don't try to force what, you know, let people see how you live, let people see it, how you speak, let people see how you think. And then there'll be running T how can, how can I get to the place of where you are? Because you seem like you have it all together and then you'd be like, well, I don't have it all together, but I tell you what, this is what I believe in. You know, if you were a CIT some time and we can talk, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because I need to, I need to change some things in my life. Okay. Well, let's do that. 2 (1h 33m 29s): Yeah. I have to have, I have to have hope that it'll at some point like regulate and improve. And I think what got me to that point, cause I used to be a little bit more cynical and be like, Oh my gosh, like the country is, we know it's going to implode and then nothing's going to be the same. Is it, if you do look back at, at human history, like we've been making small incremental improvements, right? Like we're doing a little bit better every century. So yeah. So I just hope that we stay on on course for that. And just to like our small improvements every day and then 2020, it'll be a long, much forgotten terrible year. 0 (1h 34m 16s): And, and I were starting at 2021. 2 (1h 34m 19s): I know a great offer to start a hoax. 0 (1h 34m 23s): I was like, wait a minute. Who died? Who dialing in what? They are not again. No man. 2 (1h 34m 31s): And did you see those memes going around? And like everyone was like so excited for 2021. They're like, no, it's 20 it's 2020. That just turned 20, 21. That just turned 21. And can now drink like, 0 (1h 34m 44s): Oh, I hope that's not true. It's not true. Oh, 2 (1h 34m 51s): Oh my goodness. Well, I know you are a super busy man, so I don't want to take too much of your time. Well, girl, 0 (1h 34m 58s): We got to do it again. I think. Yeah. I think again, I, I like, I like what you're doing and I like how you doing? And you know, just, just even if you are in a minute, even if you are right leaning, but you don't have to let anybody know that, which brings everybody to your table. And then when they come comes to your table, you can, you can, man, you can be a beacon of information because I'm telling you, I didn't watch a couple of our interviews all the way through, but I watched the subject matter of a couple of those interviews and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0 (1h 35m 44s): I'll go ahead and do that. I mean, she's, she's, she's getting information out and she wants to learn. And I know she is learning from, talk to me from talking to him about it because anybody who has a certain different way of speaking in, in, in, in how they come to a point. So you are growing, I know you are growing like this. So I mean, I apply again. I apply what you doing and let me know in I'm sorry, it took so long, but I knew, I knew that there was going to be a whole lot going on. And I was like, you know, this is going to be a whole lot to talk about and eat, even though we didn't really get into that stubborn get in that stuff the next day, a few hours, like, yeah, we're going to have a whole lot of talk about, but I'm glad that we were able to talk about 2 (1h 36m 35s): I am too. I seriously appreciate it. Cause I know you have your own company in your own podcast and in your own everything. So do you want to tell the listeners like how they can follow you and how the project's plug away? 0 (1h 36m 49s): Thank you. Thank you so much. Can cam this is cool. 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