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1 (4s): Hello, everybody at your listening to Chatting with Candice I'm you're host Candice Horbacz back before we start this weeks episode, if you want to support the podcast, you can go to Chatting with candice.com. This week, we are going to be talking about the Mission of the podcast. Our goal is topics that we plan to discuss. Let me just kind of an overview of why you should listen and what we plan to give back to our listeners for their time. So I hope you enjoy the ups 0 (33s): This week's podcast. 1 (34s): We are going to be going over the philosophies of the podcasts. The Mission kind of where we plan to end up in the future. Chatting with Candice is going to hopefully have a lot of guests on that are inspiring that are outliers. Rulebreakers just visionaries and people that I feel can give you something to take away on a positive note. After you give us an hour of your time, because time is very valuable. I want to make sure that I'm providing you something that you can use in your toolkit of life. Maybe it will have you thinking differently, feeling better, feeling inspired, whatever it is, but I know that time is valuable. So I wanted to give you something for giving me that hour, going to show up, right? 1 (1m 16s): This is the husband. This is Eric. He's going to be here probably like 20% of the time, 30% of the time, basically, anytime that he really is fascinated in the guest, then he's going to be here to add his perspective. 2 (1m 29s): Yeah. Typically chime in and help with some technical issues too. 1 (1m 34s): Penn tech don't have a very positive relationship now, you know, but yeah, I think we have very different lenses if you will. Like, I think that you have a lot more experience when it comes to the business side of things or a lot of tech, a lot of high performance, like that's where you spend a lot of time. And then I'm very into the spiritual realm. If you will. It's like, those are like the guest's that I get really geeked out about. So I think it's cool and more, both on, or we can have like both perspectives and plus obviously having the gender perspectives as well. 2 (2m 9s): Yeah. And I think you nailed it with the idea of the outliers, not the steel from Apple, but that was like their mission statement back in the day was the outliers, the misfits, the round pegs in the square holes types of people that are saying really cool things. And I think that the more people that have a platform that has something to say, need to say it because the world's lost it's g*****n mind. Right? So, I mean, we've mentioned that on one of the other podcasts, like death by a thousand cuts, I think that the more people that have educated themselves in certain things, whether it might be spirituality or being an outlier or whatever it is, and more people that speak up in these terms, then eventually there will be balance. 2 (2m 57s): And it doesn't feel like there's a lot of balance right now in world. No, 1 (3m 0s): I couldn't agree more. So I think it's really important that we either like tackle topics or have guests on that are brave enough to speak out and link, share their opinions and usher in this idea of self improvement and like focusing on fixing you before trying to tackle anything else. I think right now there's like so much blame going around and nothing is resolved that way. I think so many people have so much work to do on themselves and inside. And if we can facilitate any of that change, then that would be awesome, 2 (3m 35s): Right? Because it's not all about everyone that has a voice should share their voice because some people probably shouldn't be, but it's more along the lines of everyone that has an experience should share that experience rather than just uneducated opinions. So in creating content for people where you're pulling in people that have had great experiences in that had the time to sit down and articulate those experiences, like maybe it's an author or YouTube star, whoever that might be who has taken the time to like really articulate a message of, self-growth a message of more of the whole, rather than this victim is kind of me, me, me mentality, lets try and broaden our perspective of life by understanding other people's experiences. 1 (4m 18s): Right? Cause that's an interesting to me at all, like someone who is just explaining how the world has happened to them and saying they've maybe had like a rough go or some kind of traumatic experience in trauma. I feel like we use that word a lot. And I think that that means something different to everybody. So it's not to take away from someone's hurt because your reality is valuable and that does matter. But I'm interested in the people that overcame it, that leaned into it, that weren't afraid. And then also didn't feel unique in the sense that I'm the only one that's ever known, this kind of hurt or this kind of pain because that's universal like that just part of the human experience. 1 (4m 59s): So I think when I find somebody that doesn't wear it like a badge of honor, they're like, this is just part of the human experience. And then this is how I overcame it. And then these are maybe some tools on how to help someone who finds himself in a similar situation. Like that's interesting to me. So I just wish that more people were explaining the tools in their toolkit of how they overcame adversity or pain or trauma rather than just saying I had this, this was real and now I'm owed something. 2 (5m 29s): Yeah. Cause it takes a lot. It's hard to look back for anybody and say that I've developed this sense of self actualization or I know myself well enough to understand the tools that I have in my toolkit in order to be successful or happy or whatever it might be like. It's hard enough to understand yourself, let alone an entire country. And I think a lot of people are focused outward rather than inward. And there are a lot of people there who are focused inward and a lot of the people that focus inward tend to grow differently. They just tend to grow and we need more people that have grown into a place where they feel it's time for them to give back. 2 (6m 12s): And in giving back they are sharing experiences or they're sharing tools in the tool kit. Right. So I mean we've already had people like Andrew. 1 (6m 22s): Oh I'm so sorry. Andrew goblet, Andrew goblets. 2 (6m 27s): Yeah. Like that dude is found his path. He has found his path in the world and he is marching it. And at the same time he's inspiring what, 80,000 people now to do that. 1 (6m 40s): Yeah. If you are listening, Andrew, I just had an entire table of women last night, buy your premium numerology report. Everyone right now is like on pins and needles waiting to get it back because they are planning their future around it. So yeah, he's very much impacting people's lives. Like I just saw what happened last night, but I think Brent is doing the same thing. Like he's something that really found his path and is spending his energy to improve the lives of others. Right. Like that's someone that I want to help bring a spotlight to. Right. 2 (7m 11s): He's found that passion, like he's found that thing that just fires him up enough where like nothing's gonna stop that dude, but he's just going to keep learning and growing and learning and growing and following that trajectory until he hits his Mission of influencing or inspiring, I don't know millions of people, whatever it might be. 1 (7m 28s): Yeah. So I want to hopefully be getting just like more and more guests that are in all different walks of life. Like I don't want to get too spiritual because I know that's not everybody's thing I don't want to get too neurosciencey cause I know that's not everyone's thing. So it's kinda of just like sprinkling in all of these different people that have a similar story to tell and like that is improvement and growth. And I guess just living an interesting life, right? It's not normal to lean into pain and to constantly be self improving and working with like a growth mindset. I think a lot of people just based off my experience and like who I run into, a lot of people just want to be comfortable I'm so when I see his people that are outliers and constantly trying to improve and grow, like that's always fascinating to me because I want to know like, what was that turning point in your life that got you to have that perspective or that shift of a mindset? 1 (8m 25s): Because I certainly wasn't. I mean, I was very complacent for a very long time and for me it took an enormous amount of pain to want to grow and be like, I don't want to be here anymore. And I don't know if that's how it is for everybody, but I know that there's usually a moment and then a shift tab, 2 (8m 41s): Right? It's like at what point, like a lot of these people, even when I listen to other people's podcasts, that they have some of these awesome people on that are really inspiring. It's almost like where was that moment where you started falling in love with the journey like of life itself, right? Not just like the journey of this thing you're trying to accomplish for these external reasons. Why, because you want to look smart or look important or feel wealthy or you want people to look at you like, you know, you're better than, or, you know, whatever these external motivators might be. But when did that shift happen, where there was these intrinsic motivators kicking and firing and, and the a hundred different ways that just led you down this path, all of a sudden you're like s**t, dude, this f*****g journey and just became really fun wear like the pain that you leaned into for so long where you finally were able to like surrender to a lot of it and say like, Oh, it's okay. 2 (9m 32s): I'm doing what I need to do to help the world or help my family. Right. That doesn't you need to be that big. But for that journey is like, this is my journey. 1 (9m 42s): Hm. And I guess like finding purpose two is really important. Yeah. And I feel like everyone kind of struggles with that at some point in their life. It's like, well, what am I doing here? Is this the career I'm supposed to have? Like, what is the goal? Do I want a family just challenging your wants, I guess, and your desires, instead of just saying like, this is what society expects of me. So I'm going to have the two and a half kids and I'm going to have that nine to five and I'm going to go to college and yada, yada, I think it's also important to expose people to like different walks of life, just so they can have that exposure. And then maybe question where they're going and not in a bad way, but just like, you don't know what you don't know. So I didn't really know a lot about spirituality until a few years ago. 1 (10m 25s): And then I just dove into the deep end now and I'm like in, but if I didn't have that exposure, I might not have ever found it. And that has played such an important role in my life that I don't even know where I'd be without it. 2 (10m 37s): Yeah. And the way I, it's a spirituality is an interesting one because the way I view it is I think a lot of people take a negative automatically that when you say that word, spirituality, their brains go negative. And it's like, Oh, you know, this is this weird stuff that I want to go anywhere near that. Right. They associate with religion, they associate it with like this esoteric nonsense, but it's not about that. Science has gotten so far and it keeps getting further and further, but then there's this giant unknown stuff that people create and articulate different answers for it. And that knows Andrew's going to be religion. It could be numerology like Andrew follows and all that kinds of stuff. But when I think of spirituality, I think of the unknown and then back to the known, which is like the more science of spirituality being the unknown. 2 (11m 24s): Like there's a lot of these things that you can't prove. It's just a bunch of people's opinions. And in order to really articulate that and understand your journey in life or whatever you need to do, like, it's really nice to be able to get a bunch of people who study the unknown and try to figure out and articulate the unknown. It's really nice to get their experiences and their knowledge from all the research and stuff that they've done in order to craft your own spiritual journey. Right? So it's not, This super esoteric world of witches and witchcraft, all that kinds of stuff. It's the science only taken us so far beyond that. It's just a bunch of people with a bunch of ideas and it's going to take a long time for science to catch up. But these parts of that, like Steven Kotler, one of my favorite authors, he studies high performance. 2 (12m 8s): And how do you live the best absolute life that you can do? You get into those peak States of mind that let you perform your best. And he says that when you have a performance issue, there's usually a spiritual solution. When you have a performance problem, there's the spiritual solution because there's so much happening in the unknown. And he says, when you have a spiritual problem, a lot of people that are on those, like they're just searchers. And they're just constantly on that spiritual searching path. He says, there's a performance solution. So like these things and a bunch of scientists, they have these gaps in these things when it comes to science and mysticism and all that, there's a lot of people that are trying to like fill those gaps. Like Steven Kotler is a great author, Joe Dispenza and these dudes, but in the end, I think it's really nice when you've stumbled across platforms, even to Joe Rogan, even Tim Ferriss will touch on this guns and stuff where they're not scared to explore and there's no judgment and exploration. 2 (13m 3s): And I think that this is a platform for that kind of exploration, but that also experienced sharing from people that have founded path, a journey that's theirs. 1 (13m 14s): Yeah. Like that experience sharing 2 (13m 16s): The gestalt method of doing things. And we learned that in EO. So along with the content that this podcast is going to be putting out, and that there's a lot of stuff that you're really passionate and excited about learning yourself. Right. Cause you consider yourself, 1 (13m 32s): I am such a researcher. Like I'm such a nerd when it comes to it. Like if I'm trying to find a new deodorant, I'll probably spend two hours on the internet just trying to find like the perfect one. And I actually enjoy that process. If it's a topic that I'm into, like, I love just diving deep into it and like being inquisitive. And then I think that's like also in the best content comes out 2 (13m 51s): When you're actually genuinely curious about it. Right. So on here like that, or is it such an array of topics and categories that you can dive into that feed into all these things that we're talking about? Let's try to identify. So, 1 (14m 3s): So I would say topics that I plan on hitting a lot are going to be personal development. Like how do you continue to grow? And that's going to be in like all aspects, just never like settling for where you are. So the people that have either a different perspective or way of tackling just growth in general, I would say parenting just because we have a new little baby and we want to make sure that we are doing everything as best we can for him. Relationships are very interesting to me just because I think there's so much that goes into them. It's like way beyond just the two people. So it's a society that you were both raised in that played a huge factor into what you expect in a relationship. 1 (14m 49s): And 2 (14m 50s): So relationships with other people romantic, non romantic and with yourself. Right, right. Yeah. 1 (14m 55s): The three spirituality, we all obviously got into that and I'm very into that. So just finding people that are doing some cool s**t over there, basically anyone that I think is like an outlier. I've always identified with people that are a little bit outside of the box and outside of the expectations of society and I'm there. I live there. 2 (15m 17s): It's a tough one. The world's biggest fear is public speaking. Right. And its because we are so terrified to be ostracized by our society, by our tribe that people won't speak up or they won't be the outlier, which are the people that inspire. Right. 1 (15m 33s): I think oftentimes for sure. And I think you can't deny that there's a difference between someone that's comfortable in the pack versus someone that's comfortable outside of the pack. So the people that are outside of the pack, it's more rare for sure. So that's kind of why I'm intrigued and like how did you get there? Like I know how I got here. So how did you get here? And like see if there's any crossover 2 (15m 53s): That was interesting. I'd imagine it's the same kind of struggles mentally, 1 (15m 57s): Right? Yeah. And then that's kind of what I wanted to see. And then you won't know until you like talk to these people and have just a lot of volume to be able to compare. 2 (16m 5s): Yeah. Along that path. Two is you have to get really good at knowing who you are in order to be there. Right. But yeah, I don't. No, but you obviously have been crafting a human being out of yourself for a long time now and it's cool to watch, but I read certain books. Like the one I read recently was that Joe Hahn Hari, I think his name was Joe Han Hari lost connections. And we actually described exactly This where in our prehistoric human brains, if we were lost from the tribe, if we found ourselves in the grassland hunting and we were last from the tribe and we found ourselves by ourselves, you automatically trigger a fear response. So you automatically start flushing your body with cortisol. So you literally live in like a very high stressed state until you develop the skills and confidence to live in that outlier, persona, that journey to get there, to be one of the outliers is probably so unique experientially to a lot of people and they probably develop their own tools, but deep down inside of sure it's full of a bunch of fear, a bunch of self doubt and a lot of overcoming these things. 2 (17m 10s): Right. And I think that most people in society, the problem is that they are just drifting through life, not asking questions around who they are and I is why we have so many people feeling like victims, right. 1 (17m 24s): Victims are depressed or isolated. Obviously the state of everything doesn't help right now either because you have so many States telling me you're not allowed to, to socialize. So I just kind of exacerbates all of these negative feelings. 2 (17m 38s): Yeah. Which is literally one of the hierarchy of needs human needs. It's the human connection. And that's why, because we don't do well in isolation yet. Now we are forced in isolation. Yeah. To me really interesting 1 (17m 50s): To see like the psychological effects of This down the road. 2 (17m 54s): It's kind of scary, especially for the kids. Yeah. Knowing that genetically we're just not designed for this as humans. So it's going to be interesting. That's the biggest thing. And virtual platforms just don't do it in his book to a hundred. Right. He actually mentioned his analogy when it comes to the virtual meeting and virtual meeting places and being on zoom calls and being connecting virtually with people, he says, it's like the same thing as watching porn versus having sex. Like you don't get the same connection and you don't get the same neurochemistry that happens. You don't get the same spiritual connection, the same vibrational connections, that unexplainable stuff that you get when you're in proximity to another human being, having a meaningful conversation. 2 (18m 36s): And now our entire lives like people working from home nonstop, our entire lives are absorbed with these virtual connections it's been going on since social media was created really. According to him, it's like since the seventies we've been declining in the actual social connections, but we digress a little, but the point is to explore the people that have been able to step outside of society a little bit and ask these kinds of questions and, and explore and be able to self identify who they are and who they, how they want to show up in the world. Like these people are fascinating. Right? 1 (19m 11s): Yeah. And I would say also goal of the podcast would be to have people challenging belief systems that they already have and like challenge the way that they look at the world. Just because I feel like at least for myself, I didn't know why I thought relationships should be a certain way or I didn't know why I should act in a certain way. And once I started challenging those things, I became a better person. And I was like, Oh, these aren't me. Like these are just like the programs that I was raised with. And I think it goes back to being exposed to just different walks of life. So hopefully exposing people to something that they maybe didn't know and then challenging someone on something that they've always thought was a certain way. And then maybe creating like an expansion of sorts. 2 (19m 53s): Right. Kind of playing the devil's advocate a little bit. I here's the thought that this person is very few people thinking it and acting upon it, but they just might be a little happier than you that's be aware of that touch with a feather for now, but let that sink. 1 (20m 9s): Right. And it's not to say that these common ways of looking at things or living or versions of reality are bad, right? Like I think we, especially on social media, like you see it gets demonized. If you have a nine to five and then you're expected to want something else. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I think certain things suit people differently, right? Someone might be more than happy to nine to five. And that's great if that makes you happy, that's all it matters. And I think it's really problematic that we're pushing entrepreneurship down everyone's throat, right? Leave your job. Doesn't matter if you have a family that you support, go find your dream. And because it's not there, well, that's not necessarily true for everybody. 1 (20m 51s): So I think it's important to just recognize like what makes you happy? And what's like your authentic path versus what society is telling you that should be. And I think that that's shifted, right? It used to be, go to college, have the job, get the family. That's what it was. And now it's like, Oh, the new counterculture is quit. The job. Don't do the family start your own business risk all of your money. Like for some people. Sure. That's awesome. But I think it's just being able to stand up for yourself and say, this is what I want. And it doesn't matter if anyone's telling you you're right or wrong, you know, what's going to make you happy. And then just being able to have the confidence to, I guess, not only go after it, but stay there if you're already there, right? 1 (21m 31s): Like there's nothing wrong with where you're at. If you're Hi. 2 (21m 34s): Yeah. Luckily there are a lot of cool business leaders out there that are creating formidable missions for the companies like these impact businesses that are actually doing good for the world. So that when you go to work everyday, you actually feel like you're contributing. That's one of the biggest things behind a lot of depression and anxiety is that people don't find meaning and what they're doing because the business leaders or whoever, the people that do take that entrepreneurial job aren't providing meaning to people. And it's cool. I think that that's one cool thing I've seen. That's one of the trends that are happening right now is that a lot of business leaders are taking that on as a personal challenge. Like how do I create a Mission out of this? Now, a lot of them are say they do it. 2 (22m 15s): And it's easy to craft this mission and slap it on a website and not actually do it. I don't really know enough to really call any out, but they exist. And we all know who they are. Some of the ones like censoring society potentially. 1 (22m 31s): I think it's really important for people to have purpose. And I think without purpose, you don't have meaning. And without any of those things and you tend to fall into a depression or you fall into like a negative loop. So I think it's up to the individual at the end of the day. Like I think it's great if like a company can provide some sort of feedback or Mission and try and bring in the company and make it feel like a one like a single unit, right. I guess, have everybody on board and your job is important to like that you don't have to be in the executive suite to be making a difference. But I think it's up to the individual to just shift their perspective and find the good. So if you work for a company, let's say it's like, Tom's right. 1 (23m 12s): Your job, no matter what it is is important. Like there's a butterfly effect happening. So it's like just finding the Mission of your company. And our company is putting shoes on people's feet. Like that's important. And I think there's a lot of companies, especially now more than ever that are doing extra, they're going above and beyond in some way. So if the finding that or finding how your job is even just affecting your coworkers, right. Let's say that your in charge, like you're one of the staffers and charge of just providing lunches for the day. Like you should be able shift your perspective and see that like you are giving and you are providing like a very important part to dozens, if not hundreds of people's lives every single day, five days a week. 1 (23m 57s): So it's just perspective. Right. So it's having gratitude and just seeing beyond 2 (24m 2s): Yeah. And that's what some of these things that law discover in people's toolkit. Right? Some of the stuff I had did you get from there to there, like how did you get from pizza delivery boy to an inspiring author or something along those lines, right. What were those steps that you took those perspective shifts? Cause that's really what it is. Growth is nothing but a bunch of perspective shifts and more people that have a perspective shift, especially right now, it's like, we're going through a giant change in society. It's just a giant shift. And it's cool because a lot of cool stuff can come out. The other end of it. But then a lot of broken stuff can come out the other end of it. 1 (24m 42s): Right. And it's all, it's all based off of your lens. Like what do you want to do with This? So we'll see, 20 to 31, 2 (24m 48s): You just to start jumping around the lakes on politics talk, but is that going to be a topic of conversation? 1 (24m 52s): You don't know? So I think politics are really important. I got into them a little bit later. I always had the idea that I think a lot of young people do, which is it's not for me. I never really saw the direct effect that it had until I started making money until I had my own business until I had my own family. And prior to all of those things, it didn't impact me at all. I had to pay my taxes. That's about it. Who's going to make me pay the least amount of taxes. That's all I thought, 18 to whatever. But now it's like you see all of these things could be in jeopardy in some way. If I don't have a voice, if I don't stay up to what's what, and what's happening in even just like your local politics, right? 1 (25m 38s): I think too often we just look at the sensationalized presidential poll and that's only one branch, no one realized is like, hopefully they realize, hopefully you paid attention in our history class, but like we don't live in an authoritative country. Right? There's different branches, there's checks and balances. So it's really important that you elect people on a local level that represent you and your interests. So when these big debates and policies are being made, that your representative has your back essentially. So you can hate whatever president, as much as you want, but that's like such a small piece of the problems happening right now. So you have to look smaller, right? Look at your state. 1 (26m 18s): But getting back to the question, I think it's really important. I think that it's hard not to have a partisan perspective because we're all individuals, we all have different needs and expectations and what my needs are, are not going to be your needs necessarily. And that doesn't make either of us right or wrong. It's just who I feel represents me the best and my needs the best and who I feel will protect those things the best. And you can't get mad at someone because they feel like it's not the same person as you. Right. So it's hard because I'm a mother and I'm a business owner and I'm going to look at things from my lens and that's not necessarily going to be appealing to everybody else. 1 (27m 1s): And then if you get someone on that is a professional in the political arena, then they're obviously going to be in one bucket. Usually that's how that works. So it's hard to have a conversation that's truly like bipartisan. I don't know. It just doesn't exist yet. And I don't know why 2 (27m 18s): I'm definitely going to come on the political ones. There we go to the political guy. 1 (27m 21s): Do you know? I would think eventually I would like to have someone on, because I do think it's so important, especially right now. But I just feel like if I did it that it would just get misconstrued or 2 (27m 32s): Yeah. That's the problem. Because if you get a conservative on all of a sudden, you're a conservative podcast. If you get a liberal on all of a sudden, you're like podcast the liberal podcasts, but we need to explore these people in the way that they think. So how can you do it in such a way that you won't get stamped with 1 (27m 46s): The one or the other? And I think it's also important to discuss, I don't know why we always have arguments over fundamental different beliefs, right? Like you could talk about abortion, right? Like that's an easy one. Why are we still arguing about that? You either are approach choice or your own. 2 (28m 7s): The argument is because these things get written into law and then everybody okay. 1 (28m 10s): That you are now, you are not, I would be really interested to see the last time that someone really changed. Someone's mind. I feel like when it comes to these age old arguments, you have the two different people and vote according to what matters to you and your belief system. And the majority is going to win like that. Just how it is. I think some people, yeah, we'll have a shift in perspective and maybe they'll have some new information that they didn't have before and that will change them from one to the other. But I think what the problem is is we sit there and we shout at each other and we're trying to get someone else to change their mind. And there's nothing new on these topics, right. They've been around for forever. So it just majority is going to win. So I think we would be better off just spending our time and energy on things that bring us together. 1 (28m 54s): Then the things that are dividing us, 2 (28m 55s): Right? Yeah. Cause its like the idea of power versus force. As soon as you raise your voice and an opposing opinion, you create more, you create more force in that opposing opinion. I want to butcher like the idea of abortion or anything like that. But there's this sense that if everyone looked inward and was focused on growth and if they're focused on themselves versus what other people are doing, then I think a lot of these conversations would be a little bit different. Right? Cause a lot of that is people from the outside pointing inside saying what you're doing is right or wrong. Right. That seems to be what's missing there. Also, I always say that these conversations and these arguments, I'm not a politician and I don't consider myself someone that is like really well educated in any of these. 2 (29m 42s): But I will say that a lot of these arguments are symptoms of something bigger and a thing that's bigger should be the thing that more people are talking about. And they're not because there's no clarity they're as to what it is. And I think that's the thing no more, you can explore curiously, both sides, whether it's both sides of the argument, whatever it is and look deeper as what's really going on, especially in society, unique society like the United States, the more people can do that. Curiously. Then they'll start figuring out that all these things are symptoms of something, something else, something that we can all shift inside of us and perspective shifts that can happen with curiosity, with people that speak and are studying and researching different ways of being. 1 (30m 27s): Yeah. And I would say curiosity is a really important word for the podcast because I think that's something that we've lost a lot of. And I think that if we remain curious and we're not going to be so combative with one another, because we genuinely just are trying to like find that other perspective. And again, there's like no right or wrong because we were just like the accumulation of our experiences. So we are unique in that way. So you can't really say what's right for me is right for you and pushing your beliefs on someone. Else's never like a good thing. You can definitely try to open people's eyes. But again, they have to be curious to do so. And so should do we all need to kind of just try to understand each other a little bit better? 2 (31m 4s): How hard is that though? It's so hard. We don't understand ourselves, let alone other people, 1 (31m 9s): Well it's removing judgment too, right? Because you can't be curious with judgment and you can't be curious if you think you know everything. So I think it's also admitting that you aren't an expert and information is constantly changing and evolving and you just like being open to that. 2 (31m 25s): Well, I don't remember the exact term, but it's a long, the lines of the experts dilemma. Once you identify as an expert in something, you actually become less informed because you lose that curiosity, write the beginner's the sense of curiosity. So I would say keep that in mind when actually getting experts on the podcast, people that are so glued to a conviction sometimes, probably that you can get in the way. I think that's an issue, everyone, is that again, listening to them and they've studied one thing for a really long time, right? 1 (31m 56s): So I think that's important to you is exposing yourself to different perspectives because if you are only reinforcing a belief system that you already have, you're not learning anything. So I think it's always just kind of like bouncing back and forth and just seeing changes and just seeing different perspectives. And if you never changed your mind to that's fun, maybe you always wanna be in one space. You don't know that that's actually authentic unless you are reading information about 2 (32m 24s): Right. So politics, it will take a curious approach here, everyone out nonjudgmental as much as possible. And it's hard. So that's the goal. If you do get some sort of politic, well, not a politician, but someone that leans in that direction, like, I don't know if Ben Shapiro is a politician, but he's like a person that talks about politics. That'd be a cool guy to have on the show and do time 1 (32m 53s): Being up with a lot of things. So if I can just make people be nicer to each other, that's the gold, that's the cool to see. We have a lot of really lofty goals here. And then to also just remind people that social media is what to percent of the global population is on Twitter. So don't get too down in the dumps when you just see so much hate being spewed all over the place. It's just people that don't have another outlet and that's their outlet. And they're probably not being heard in real life. So there are you going to the digital world to go spew that out because it's safer and they're anonymous and that's just very small representation of humankind. So I have to remind myself that all the time I have to remind you that all the time I try not to on Twitter as much. 1 (33m 35s): Now it's a very scary place to be 2 (33m 39s): Relationships, science, spirituality, politics, what else? Health, wealth, performance goals, happiness, right? The whole spectrum of stuff. 1 (33m 53s): You had to pick two things. It would just be like happiness and self-improvement right. And self improvement is an infinite amount of categories. So those are the two things 2 (34m 3s): To get there. I mean the first step to any of it is to develop clarity, clarity around like who you are and what you believe. And there's only one way to do that. And it's education and research. So people on the show that have clarity in these areas, the help filter through clarity as to how you want to show up in the world. 1 (34m 22s): Yes. So that was a very long overview. Kind of went a lot of places. But if that's going to be kinda, the theme is I don't want to cater to just one type of person. I'm hopefully gonna have a very diverse audience and hopefully I can share some really important information that helps make your day in life better. I'm gonna listen, 2 (34m 45s): You know. 1 (34m 48s): Well, thanks for joining me. I hope that you stick around. We're gonna have some really cool guests on every single week and please you have the time, leave us a review rate the podcast subscribe. So you don't miss a thing will see you next time. That's it for this weeks episode. I hope you enjoyed it. If you have the time please rate and review and you can always hit subscribe to stay up to date with our latest episodes. I hope to have you back. 0 (35m 17s): <inaudible>.