My first in-person guest is Adrian Grenier, actor, philanthropist, host of his YouTube channel “Earth Speed”, and owner of DuContra Ventures. He shares his life after being an actor in the limelight, how he decided to create his own environmentally-sustainable community, and his plans for the future to combat climate change in his own way.
00:00:00 00:03:18 Blurred Lines Between Adrian and Vinny Chase
00:14:65 Adrian’s Journey to Finding His Authenticity
00:22:09 Owning Your Own Divine Masculinity
00:34:01 Forced “Boss Babe” Narrative
00:40:29 Decentralization of the Enflamed Food Industry, Bitcoin, and Climate Change
00:56:02 Land Trust Dow and Fund, Cryptocurrency, and YBM
01:03:33 Earth Speed, Hay Bale Urinal, and Homesteads
01:09:03 Where to Find Adrian Grenier
Adrian Finding His Authenticity
It took Adrian more than two years to shed his ego identity like vanity and indulgences during his time as an actor. He rebuilt a new life as a “farmer”, which he still doesn’t feel like he truly is, but is in constant pursuit of growing food and working in harmony with nature. He found authenticity by keeping his feet on the ground and accepting that he doesn’t know and that’s okay, which in turn awakened his curiosity.
Divine and Toxic Masculinity
Adrian grew up with a single mother whom he believed took on traditionally masculine traits through a female perspective that didn’t trust men. She didn’t have any positive male role models in her life and taught Adrian that she could be both a mother and father. This led to Adrian internalize his mother’s relationship with men and became emasculated, feminized, and not be in touch with his masculinity. He then sought negative expressions of masculinity: fame fortune, dominance, and ego that ended up being destructive. He had to relearn what it meant to be a man by unlearning what his mother taught him. Culturally, he believes people are relearning those roles and how best to show up for each other as men and women.
Decentralization of the Food Industry, Climate Change, and Cryptocurrency
Adrian is looking into an ethical and spiritual perspective which will serve as the foundation for his farm and was inspired by decentralization: creating communities and utilizing currencies such as bitcoin and cryptocurrency that is self-sufficient and not controlled by centralized governments and banking systems which can network out to similar communities. In combatting climate change on a smaller scale, he aims to produce an ecosystem that’s created in harmony with itself and has no waste unused, compared to a factory farm that produces waste that only ends up in a landfill. What happens with factory farms and monocropping is once it reaches a certain scale, disease starts to be introduced to a degree that the environment can’t handle. With that, Adrian discusses his future project—a hay bale urinal that turns human waste into compost for land.
Links and Resources:
Adrian’s Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter pages
Earth Speed Instagram and YouTube channel
DuContra Ventures Official Website, Twitter, and Instagram
Support the show (http://patreon.com/candicehorbacz)
0 (0s): You're sort of beside yourself, you have this awareness that, you know, of course you're not Vinny, but there's sort of a willful ignorance that you allow yourself to be Vinnie as it serves you when it's convenient, when there's fun to be had, or, you know, it's, it's the positive feedback loop of affirmation. When you're on a show, that's popular. People like it. And when you walk into a room, they give you immediate approval. Not because of you because they don't know you, but because you're that guy 1 (34s): And they think you are 0 (35s): Exactly. So there's a incentive to play up that aspect of yourself and to indulge them for the acknowledgement, the approval, the attention. And one thing is people don't recognize how powerful a drug attention is. 1 (57s): Hello everybody, you're listening to Chatting with Candice, I'm your host, Candice Horbacz. Before we jump into this week's episode, I wanted to do a couple of quick shout outs. So I want to say thank you to Kevin Fitzgerald and press for all of those cups of coffee. You both are extremely generous. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I wanted to give a shout out to Lewis, who is a premium Patrion member. I couldn't do this without all of your support. So I sincerely appreciate all of the help and a new thing that we're kind of keeping on with to kind of encourage those reviews as we're reading some of the reviews that I recently get. So this one is from Vinnie. B says seriously, amazing podcast. 1 (1m 38s): Candice does a great job with the content and the interviews. She is extremely intelligent. Her guests are knowledgeable, intriguing, and really make me think and validate my own beliefs and have helped open my mind to a new way of thinking. That is definitely a much more positive. I listened to my first episode and was hooked. Just wish there were more episodes. Well, I'm working on it. Thank you so much Vinnie. I really appreciate it. And speaking of Vinnie, so this week we have Adrian Grenier joining the podcast. He is widely known, at least in my generation as Vinnie chase from entourage. He has such a really incredible story about leaving Hollywood, getting his hands dirty and working on some really big, impactful projects. 1 (2m 22s): So I hope you enjoy the conversation. Let me know what you think. Welcome to the 0 (2m 26s): Show. Welcome to my stables. 1 (2m 29s): This is amazing. We haven't done anything on location. So I was really excited that we could make this happen. 0 (2m 35s): Welcome. Yes, I'm very happy to have you here. We are very proud of this stables because this actually had about a foot and a half of goat manure that we had to clear out. So you're on fresh dirt here. Clear the goat manure. 1 (2m 55s): I appreciate it. Yeah, no Leftovers 0 (2m 60s): To, there you go. 1 (3m 1s): What'd you do with it all, 0 (3m 2s): Put it in the back there. It's good. Compost. Just, it was the doors wouldn't shut. So this is in process, but eventually we'll have it back in working shape and then we'll bring in some more goats to put more maneuver. Yeah, exactly. 1 (3m 19s): No I'm so I'm really fascinated with the journey of, I guess like the public persona that you decided to share with everyone, right? So it's when you have a celebrity or a public figure, it's like we start to generate an idea of who we think that they are, and then we kind of expect them to live up to those expectations. And you said something that was really interesting, like resonated with me specifically was that if you become, if you play this character for so long, you tend to become it. And I think with one of your more famous characters, Vinnie chase, like that character was so it, it really blurred the lines between reality and fantasy for a lot of people, because it seemed like we were actually watching your journey, like become famous. 1 (4m 4s): And like, there was not that separation. And I feel like I have that same thing happened with me just from the industry that I come with. So I guess, was there a time where you, you were having those lines blurred? Like you're like, am I Vinny or am I Adrian? 0 (4m 23s): Yeah. I mean, we'll look, you're, you're sort of beside yourself, you have this, this awareness that, you know, of course you're not Vinny, but there's sort of a willful ignorance that you allow yourself to be Vinny as it serves you when it's convenient, when there's fun to be had, or, you know, it's, it's, it's a positive feedback loop of affirmation. When you're on a show, that's popular, people like it. And when you walk into a room, they give you immediate approval. Not because of you because they don't know you, but because you're that guy 1 (5m 2s): And they think you are 0 (5m 3s): Exactly. So there's a incentive to play up that aspect of yourself and to indulge them for the acknowledgement, the approval, the attention. And one thing is people don't recognize how powerful a drug attention is. And it's a scarce commodity that we're all vying for. So, I mean, social, like in tribal societies when there was, you know, anywhere between 20 and a hundred people living together easy to, to get acknowledgement from your community because everybody knows everybody and you, you can, you know, you have a role that you play. 0 (5m 43s): So you have a sense of purpose within that community, but in our society, we're all isolated. We're, we're lonely. And the way you get attention is by being on social media or on a television show. And so all the attention has been, you know, basically consolidated to a few famous people and, and it's extremely addictive to those famous people and they just keep lapping it up. They need more and more and more. And then the rest of the people, you know, they they're, they're, they're feeling, you know, isolated and UN unloved. So I had to get off that I had to get clean, so to speak. 1 (6m 27s): Cause it's intoxicating, right? Like you show up and everyone's like, oh, you're so pretty. You're so famous. I love this thing that you did. And none of it's really substantial, right? Like it's just this, it was work. It was just this thing that you did. It's not, you, it doesn't say anything about your character, but then that's not the person that they love. And like, well, this feels so good. And then, especially with the introduction of social media, you see these numbers that would never exist before, right? Like you have, let's say a hundred thousand people liked this photo now, what does that mean? Right. And then that becomes your metric for happiness. Yeah. 0 (6m 59s): And it's fleeting because you gotta know, you gotta do it again, 1 (7m 2s): Maintain it. Right. Which is impossible. Right. So I guess what, what was the thing that got you off of that train? Because for me it was my husband. Like he, he would joke and I would come home if I would like be working in LA for a long time, I'd come home. And like, I would kind of carry that energy with me. And he's like, you can leave Eva in California. Like, I don't want that. And he Candice back here and he would kind of bring me back down. I was like, whoa, I didn't even realize because it became so automated for me. 0 (7m 30s): Good for him. 1 (7m 31s): Yeah. Seriously. 0 (7m 32s): Good for you for him. 1 (7m 33s): Yes, absolutely. 0 (7m 36s): I think, yeah. Partners will, will do that because they see you as you and they see you better than other people and they may be sometimes see you better than yourself, especially when you're on one, you're on a trip. Yeah. I was floating, you know, many feet off the ground and in the clouds and, and you know, in my own grandiosity and my, my partner, Jordan, she, she brought me down. It wasn't as kind. She wasn't as kind about it. She sort of gave me a, what I call a cosmic karmic bitch slap And just enough so that I was, you know, awakened and just to like get one eye open to see, oh man, I've been asleep at the wheel for, you know, 30 years who knows how long ever since I started to, you know, become famous. 0 (8m 30s): So, and, and really love brought me back to myself and my ability to give of myself because I loved others, not just myself, you know, and that sort of brought me down to earth. So I had to ground myself. I had to start learning practical skills, long lasting, deep intimacy, and connection with, with, with her and with the land earth. That's why, I mean, that's why I'm here to continue that journey of connection. I'm not just Manatee and indulgence. 1 (9m 4s): And I think that's something a lot of people can really relate to right now is lack of connection. And how do you find that and how do you find purpose and fulfillment? Did you find that when you were in the middle of that transformation process and you were kind of leaving that version that everyone thought you were, which is like this playbook boy, Hollywood type, and now, I mean, we're on a farm and a barn. Did you see a lot of people that were kind of, I guess, pushing back on that and saying like, just shut up and make movies. 0 (9m 34s): Yeah. And still do. 1 (9m 36s): Okay. 0 (9m 37s): You know, I, I, I, I say that, you know, I, I went from fuck boy to farmer and, and there are a lot of people that were invested in my fuck. Boyness for good reason. I mean, 1 (9m 53s): He did it well, it was 0 (9m 54s): Fun. It was fun. Yeah. And also I had to let go of many relationships that didn't have my best interest at heart. And that's not that they were intentionally evil, but maybe just not, you know, not, they were operated. There was a complicit mutual reason for us keeping each other small. And, and so you have to let go of those relationships, you know? And, and, and even now when I returned and I see people I haven't seen in awhile and they haven't leveled up, they haven't evolved the relationship. Can't continue. I mean, you can be nice, but it's like, I need to surround myself with people who are spiritually ambitious, who want to have more out of life and want to give and be of service to themselves, their families and the future than people who are just looking for a good time for a night. 1 (10m 56s): So do you, cause I totally agree. It's like, as you kind of reach these different levels of reality for yourself, you find more distance between you and maybe people that have been in your life forever because they're not on that same journey. And it can suck because sometimes it could be a family member or someone that's been like, you know, a best friend or what have you. So where's the balance between, I guess, trying to influence them and then just like accepting that you can't change people. 0 (11m 22s): You can't, you can't change people. You can't change the world outside, you can change yourself. And then in having changed, you necessarily the world outside, you starts to change. So it really is an inside job. It's a personal pursuit. And I, I mean, I was on that trip too, even when I was in my own game, you know, I really believed I was going to change the world. And then I was such a great guy. It was a good person because I, you know, built charities and stuff. And I I'm a UN environment ambassador. And I do all these things for the earth, but it was really like trying to legislate or dictate how the world should be out there. 0 (12m 8s): And meanwhile, my own, I didn't have my own shit in order. And when you meet people who they haven't been enlightened yet, you know, it's easy to want to judge and say, well, I'm, you know, but it's, again, you're getting into that same trip. So you have to really let go. And sometimes, you know, you recognize that, you know, things, things change and that change can be hard. And that's why, you know, that's why death is designed into the system of life. Because in order to change, you have to let go of things and things have to die, even relationships and, and it's sad. And then you have to, and then you mourn that you have to, you know, take the time to allow yourself to be sad. 0 (12m 52s): And, and if you lose a lifetime friend, because you've gone separate ways, take, take, take the time, take a moment to allow yourself to mourn and grieve that loss doesn't mean it won't come back around and guess what? Life always does have a way of re manifesting. 1 (13m 12s): Yeah. It's I think surrender is a huge part of that too, because like you said, if you try to force things, it's so easy that if you feel like you have a noble cause that you can kind of fall into this ego trap where like, well, I know better. So I'm just going to tell you how to live, but that's not a place of power and that's not a place where you can actually create like sustained influence and you see that a lot when it comes to any kind of movement right now, whether it's like people pushing for veganism or something for the environment where it's like, my way of living is the way of living instead of just kind of existing. And they say like an Oak tree doesn't have to, you know, impress anyone or prove anyone that it's an Oak tree just simply by existing. You can appreciate its beauty and its, and its shade and utility. 1 (13m 54s): Right. And it's like to be like that, 0 (13m 56s): Be the Oak, 1 (13m 57s): Be the Oak in some cases, when, in other cases you don't because those, you know, break and not bend 0 (14m 3s): That's right. Yeah. But you know, I guess be authentic, be true to yourself. And a lot of times, you know, just speaking of the lifestyle of, of fame and the, the pretend play of storytelling, you know, there's, there's a lot of fake ass behavior out there. People aren't authentic, you know, they're being what the character calls of, you know, calls them to be or what is popular at the moment, 1 (14m 38s): Safe and monetize a ball. 0 (14m 40s): Exactly. So, and it's hard to be truly authentic because it may mean that you're not gonna, you know, have the kind of success that you think you need to have. And, and it's a different kind of success, but it's still valid. 1 (14m 55s): So when it comes to that, because that's also a conversation I see a lot right now is authenticity. And how do you find your authenticity? And people are searching for people telling that, to tell them who to be, which is like counter productive. What was your journey to finding your authenticity? 0 (15m 14s): What is my authenticity? 1 (15m 15s): I mean, this is like there's dirt. You just picked up dung, you have a gardens growing, you have this great vision for this property. I think it takes a certain type of person to be able to leave something that is as comfortable, shiny, and rewarding as Hollywood to do this. And it's not saying that like, oh, you're better than everyone that stayed. But it's saying that like you had a voice that was telling you that wasn't you, and this is you. And you made what I'm guessing is a very scary leap to have a very different circumstance. 0 (15m 45s): It was a really a two plus year journey of shedding. A lot of the ego identity, a lot of the vanity, a lot of the indulgences. I mean, I literally designed my life. So throughout a day I would have little dopamine hits, you know, you know, if it wasn't like going to a fancy brunch and having like a nice, you know, eggs Benedict exciting. And then you go after brunch and you meet a friend and you, you know, chat and you talk and you like catch up and that's fun. And then next thing you know, you're having cocktails. And then, you know, then it's a dinner, a fancy dinner with like amazing people and everybody's, you know, somebody and then next thing you know, there's a party. 0 (16m 32s): So it was literally just constant indulgence. And I had to get clean again, as I said, and let go of that and come back down to earth and start to rebuild a new life. And, and I guess I'm still, I still don't feel like a farmer I'm in pursuit of being able to grow food and work with the land, working in harmony with nature to steward this land. But I'm an apprentice. I mean, I don't, I'm still learning and I think maybe, okay. So I think I've, I've come to something. 0 (17m 12s): If you want to find your authenticity, you first have to get low to the ground and humble yourself and accept that you don't know. And that's that's okay. And then you start to awaken a curiosity because if you don't know, if you're not so sure of yourself, then you can be curious about what is possible. And, and then that curiosity will lead you to discover who you are. 1 (17m 38s): Right. Because if you only have certain tier, what you think is certainty, then you're actually closing yourself off to any kind of serendipity or possible. 0 (17m 44s): Yes, exactly. That's 1 (17m 47s): Yes. I totally agree. I agree. And I think you, like, if you have enough quiet time, which like what you were describing, it's you, weren't having those moments of just silence and just yourself, you're constantly surrounding yourself with things and people and events. It's like you, I think your body almost will tell you, like, your soul will tell you if you're actually happy or versus like, you're happy. It's just circums by your circumstance, right? Like I'm only happy because everything is going great right now. And like, this character is serving me right now versus like, I can be quiet with nature and I'm happy just being, 0 (18m 23s): I used to see out in the world, the universe, trying to give me a little signs or warnings. 1 (18m 30s): Always. I think that too, 0 (18m 31s): That I would ignore totally. I would, 1 (18m 33s): I know better. 0 (18m 34s): Right. I w or I just wasn't in touch enough to really see that the universe is always speaking to you. So I was, I was wasn't hearing it cause I was, I was asleep essentially United, but like I would see versions of my older self out there in, on private planes and like silver foxes, like way too old to be with way too young girls. And I'm like, and in retrospect, I was like, oh, that was me. That was a reflection of me. It was like in a 2001 space Odyssey, the final psychedelic sequence where he travels through warm hole. 0 (19m 20s): And then he ends up, you know, time is split asunder. And then he sees himself as an older man. Then he sees himself as a baby. And he's all, all timelines are co mixed, like matrix type shit where you're like, oh, if you allow yourself to be intuitive and connected to what is being told, it's like, it's karma, it's, it's a, it's a direct call response. It's feedback, immediate feedback. It's there. Like I saw myself and, and I was like, don't, you know, it's like, you're on the wrong path. You're going the wrong way. And I just didn't know. 0 (20m 0s): I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't know how to read that at the time. And you know, it's, it's, it's a skill. I think that you have to cultivate awareness, 1 (20m 11s): Awareness, 0 (20m 12s): Mindfulness. 1 (20m 13s): Yeah, I think so too. And I think it's for me. And my opinion is like, when you start making all of, we'll say wrong, and I know like, you know, it's a lot more complicated than wrong right. And wrong. But when you start like making wrong decisions or heading a little bit to Australia, I think that those hints get louder and louder and louder. And that's how you ended up with this life or person that you don't recognize, or that's very unfavorable. And it just keeps magnifying because I think like God or the universe or whatever you want to call it, once you to live like the best, most fulfilled version of this existence. So it will make it as painful as to make you break to get you back. On course, 0 (20m 51s): Again, like you said, it's, it's a judgment to say wrong or right. It's just a path. And if you're aware of it, go ahead, choose it. But are you choosing it or are you just, you know, passively, you know, going with it, are you in charge of your life? Are you sovereign? Are you making those choices? So it's, you know, go ahead and go on any path you want, as long as you're actually in charge of that decision. 1 (21m 18s): Yeah. Like consciously making the decisions in your life instead of kind of directing 0 (21m 22s): You. If, if you had a choice between living a rich, deep, fulfilled life in nature with community and family and your loved ones versus, you know, indulgence and, you know, fleeting, you know, superficial exchanges and you know, you're going to make, I mean, that's just another judgment, but I would say I'm so happy I'm making the choices I'm making now. 1 (21m 47s): Oh yeah, for sure. It's Tom bill uses this all the time and he's like, if you think that money and fame will make you happy, then why do so many like famous people and billionaires still call themselves? Like, that's not the solution at all. Right. It's just like this really pretty bandaid, but it's not going to fulfill you. It's not going to give you that sense of community or fulfillment or purpose. And I think like I've heard you talk a little bit too, like throughout your journey, like the importance of kind of Owning Your Own Divine Masculinity and getting into that energy, which I think is really fascinating because we, right now, I feel like there's always ebbs and flows throughout life. 1 (22m 29s): And we've been in this very masculine energy of existence. And now we're shifting to kind of like a hyper feminine version because things always had like these massive swings and then they settle in the middle or at least hopefully they do. So right now, because we're in this more of a feminine surge, I feel like men are being kind of told to just sit back and not engage in that divine masculinity or the healthy masculinity, masculinity, which I think is just masculinity. I think that we lump it all into toxic and I'm like, well, that's actually not masculinity. That's actually, you know, someone that has their own insecurities and they haven't figured out how to channel that. So I guess what got you to, I guess, see like the importance of, of cultivating that? 0 (23m 13s): Yeah, well, in the process of shedding my belief systems, the frameworks of accumulation, well power, I had to find a different way of life. And that's when I opened my mind to new ideas and started looking at what it is to be a man and came across masculine, feminine frameworks and started to explore it. And recognizing that there's an energy flow of both, both polarities, both genders, both sexes. 0 (23m 55s): And we have both in, within us. And this is what I believe now, at least we have both masculine and feminine in us. And then within each all, you have the, the light expression or the dark expression of that. And, and so there's different layers that you can tap into. And as we develop, as we evolve, you know, we start to grow this awareness, not only in the mind, but also in the body. And you start to be able to navigate or express yourself in different, different ways. And for so long, I was, you know, to your point raised by a feminist in a, you know, from a female perspective that didn't trust men because my mom, my mom's father left her. 0 (24m 48s): She never had any positive role models, male role models in her life. My father then laughed me and her. So she didn't trust that. And also on some level, because she didn't trust, she chose a man that wouldn't stay. And then she taught me that she could be both father and mother to me. And that I started to now internalize her relationship to men and became in many ways, emasculated and feminized. And I wasn't in touch with my masculine. And yet I'm a, I'm a man. 0 (25m 28s): I got testosterone coursing through my body and I'm growing up and I'm seeking on some level, some deep level, I'm seeking an expression of that masculine. And I hadn't, I, my father was gone again, this patterns now being cycled. I didn't have any role models that could teach me how to be a divine masculine expression. So I ended up finding, cause it's everywhere in the world, outside in the world, these, these negative expressions of masculinity, fame, fortune dominance, ego, all of those things. And it satisfied a part of me on some level, but it was destructive. 0 (26m 13s): So I had to relearn what it means to be a man by in many ways, unlearning what my mom taught me was to be a feat of a woman. So I feel like right now, culturally on math, we are relearning both, both of those roles and how best to show up for each other, as men, as a divine expression of masculinity and also women. And to me, you know, when you look at toxic, you know, patriarchy, it's, it's not just men making bad choices or, or being destructive. 0 (26m 55s): It's also how women show up as well. We need to do it in concert together. Absolutely. As like a, you know, a mutual collaboration, a co-creation 1 (27m 5s): Enemies, 0 (27m 6s): We're not enemies. And that's what happens is a lot of times, like even I saw my mom having to rise to the occasion to be that masculine force for survival so she could take care of me. And it became a toxic expression of masculinity through a woman. Right. So not only do we have a toxic masculine culture, but we also have women who are also participating in that as well, 1 (27m 34s): More now than ever there's this comedian, I think it was Tim Dillon. And he's like toxic masculinity. Isn't, isn't dead and it's not going anywhere. It just exists in women. Now there's some truth to it. Yeah, absolutely. Cause I, I really resonate with that, but on the opposite end. So my dad left when I was relatively young as well. My mom was a single mom, 0 (28m 0s): Wiley, who, who here, you know, everybody out there, I'm sure. What is it like, you know, it's 1 (28m 4s): Very few, there's 0 (28m 5s): Like 20% people have, you know, mother and father in the home, 1 (28m 10s): Which is the root cause of a lot of what we see now. 0 (28m 13s): 30. 1 (28m 14s): Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but yeah, it's, it's kind of like the, the mirror image of, of your version. So my dad left really early as well. My mom was a single mom of three and for very similar reasons, always kind of unintentional or maybe unconsciously subconsciously picked the wrong men. Right. Abandonment issues, that kind of thing. And then 0 (28m 39s): That tracks trauma. 1 (28m 40s): Exactly. Right. Cause that's, you're each other's comfort zone and we can exist in this space together because this is predictable on the chaos is predictable. So she ended up having that unhealthy expression of feminine energy, which ends up being toxic masculinity, which then I pick up and model because that's all little humans are, is they're just modeling the behavior that they see. So me losing touch with my feminine side and becoming very harsh and domineering and disagreeable, which there were times where that was helpful, but from like a large scale, it, when you're in a marriage, right, that's problematic. So it's like, well, how do I, how do I, I guess, engage with that feminine energy again. 1 (29m 22s): So he can be masculine because you can't have both people in the relationship fighting for that masculine role. It's not going to, it's not going to turn out well and that's not going to be a marriage that lasts. So it's being comfortable with surrendering. Cause that's a lot of what a woman is, is like being soft and open. And that was hard for me because I'm like, well, if I'm those things, then who's going to me. Right? Like it's not having that trust for my husband to take on that protective role because traditionally that's been my role or that's been my mom's role. And I'm like, well, a guy's never done that. So it's learning what is, what seems like a truth for you now for a truth that's better and serves you well, 0 (30m 1s): Yeah, a hundred percent. And also recognizing that you're making a choice to, to use certain frameworks to model your life, right? So this may be Chinese to some people, they may not understand the masculine feminine, but I seems that we've done a fair amount of research reading up on and meditating on these ideas. And they work for, for me in this moment and my partner, she also agrees with this and it helps us navigate the world because we get to put that, you know, that frame onto the world and then start to build based on those, those truths. 0 (30m 44s): And those truths can change. Like, I mean, I think we are malleable and we do evolve, but right now I think it's, these are lessons. It can be controversial too. You know, don't tell me I can't be this or I can't do that. And I was like, no, yeah, you can. But just like working here on the land with the earth, you can come in and try and impose your will on nature. And if you build in a floodplain, you're going, gonna get your ass handed to you and you can do it, but just know that there are natural flows, natural, you know, energies that work in certain ways. And if you're working in opposition to it, you know, it, it may not work out as well. Go ahead and do it. But if you work in flow, if you work along with it, it might work out better for you. 0 (31m 27s): But you know, Hey, don't take my word for it. 1 (31m 30s): No, I totally agree. Because sometimes they think it's kind of going backwards and it's like, oh, well, women are supposed to be just barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. It's not what anyone is saying, but it is saying like, you can actually only make a certain amount of decisions a day. Like you actually will have burnout. So I forgot what that number is. But after that you just, you cannot make decisions successfully throughout the rest of the day. So part of that is just cognitive load. Right? If I know that the, my duties in this relationship in the household are X and you know, years, or why that's one less decision that I have to make. There was this video. I saw it and this husband was a farmer and he had just got done, like bringing in all these logs and he's like, honey, where's my coffee. 1 (32m 11s): And everyone's like, how dare you ask her for the coffee? You're a massage dentist. She's allowed to, you can make your own coffee or able-bodied 0 (32m 20s): Man. He 1 (32m 22s): Did that the next day. He's like, he comes and he's like, I listen, I'm a feminist and I'm modern. So I'm to go inside and make my copies, like, how do you go get the logs? I'm like, come on. This is ridiculous. 0 (32m 35s): Yeah. And, and you know, what are you predisposed to do? Like what do you, I mean, I going to bring in logs. 1 (32m 41s): I don't 0 (32m 44s): Exactly. So, you know, it's not, I think people are, are, are like working against the grain right now. Like if you take the time to humble yourself and listen to what your body is, what you need, you know, and you, and you clear all the traumas that are trying to, you know, impose themselves on you, all the patterning that isn't really you that's in rebellion or an opposition to, I feel, I feel a great amount of, you know, sadness or compassion for my mother who felt like she had to be the man and went out and worked her ass off and never had time to be the mom. 0 (33m 24s): She wanted to be. And to be the, the woman she wanted to be, didn't have a man to protect her enough so that she could have that full expression of her femininity. And, you know, she's, I mean, happy, amazing woman. But I do see that there was something that she was craving in her life and my heart breaks for her. Like, I, I wa I wished that she could have had more of that, you know, ability to just be carefree in her feminine and not have to be, you know, the breadwinner. 1 (34m 2s): Yeah. And a lot of that too, just comes down to narratives that have been kind of forced on us. Like that generation, like specifically, I would say for mine, it would be like, you're expected to be this Boss, Babe, and be pulling in all of, all of these numbers and hours at work. But also you can also be a full-time mom and no matter what, there's a sacrifice that's going to be made. And people don't want to admit that if you're going to be a CEO of a company and you also decide to have kids as a woman, there's going to be a sacrifice on both, right. You're not going to be as present a mother as if you didn't work. Right. And you're not going to be as bad-ass of a CEO as if you didn't have children. So you can make that decision to do both, but understand that there is a cost. 0 (34m 45s): Yeah. And also you have to be pretty and, you know, demure and thin and cute and all those things, I would say part of my divine masculine expression is recognizing that when a woman is when she has a family, when she creates life, when she conjures life out of thin air and brings a human into the world. And as a mom that is boss bitch, 1 (35m 16s): 100 price. That 0 (35m 17s): Is, I mean, like I humble myself. I bow to that. 1 (35m 21s): It's magic I 0 (35m 22s): Could load, you know, would for the rest of my life. And I wouldn't be able to do that. So kudos to you for that incredible power and strength. And 1 (35m 34s): It's interesting. It's interesting too, that we, we took the value away from that. Like we almost like pew pew at women that decided to do that. And it's like, oh, well, you you're taking the easy, lazy thing. You're just deciding to just be a mom. And like, you have no idea unless you've done it. And it's a very powerful thing. Like, there's like a huge spiritual transition that happens with it. And obviously like, there's this connection that has, I would say with like earth, that's why we call it mother earth. Right? Like it's the ability to create life. And I'm like, I don't think any spreadsheet is more powerful than creating a little human. So I think it's really important to kind of tell these young women, this is very powerful work. 1 (36m 15s): It doesn't make you lesser than, and I would venture to say, just even based off my own experience, there's no job paycheck or status that's going to make you feel the way that having a child makes you feel. 0 (36m 27s): Amen. Yeah. Amen. 1 (36m 29s): It's going to get me a lot of shit. I'm sure. 0 (36m 32s): Probably 1 (36m 33s): People like the narrative right now is like, you don't need a man or you're equal partners and it's not to say that you're not, but it like, you're the same, like there's no difference between you and a man, especially in a relationship. I, I don't know if you know this, but like no women are, we're not having kids anymore. It's like for the first time in history, it's the lowest it's ever been. So there's the most unmarried on, I guess, non mothers in like the millennial generation ever. So, but then you also have this crisis of identity and purpose and fulfillment, like, Hmm. I'm not going to say cause and effect, but I am saying like, you can look at a lot of the red flags here and see like maybe we're not putting enough value on connection and family anymore. 1 (37m 18s): Well, 0 (37m 18s): If you're going to catch it, 1 (37m 20s): Yeah. We're 0 (37m 21s): Still 1 (37m 21s): Together. 0 (37m 21s): Yeah. I'm in it with you, but it is interesting. I just, I just, you know, it just occurred to me that with all of this desire to be individual and have your own expression and your identities is unique and special, and yet we want to clump together and all these broad categories, you know, masculine, feminine, you know, different race groups, we're all so special and unique just by default. None of us are the same. Yeah. It's like to, to describe anyone would take a lifetime and yet language is shorthand, you know? 0 (38m 2s): So why do we want to hold on to these, these identities, these words, it's really irrelevant. You know? And, and this is just out of convenience. We used the words to try and express, but close your eyes, breathe, meditate. And then that is truth. And it is just you, your special, unique expression, whoever you are masculine, feminine, black, white, red, whatever. So yeah, I, it just occurred to me that language is so, and in insufficient 1 (38m 35s): They say that we won't be talking in the future. You'll have Neurolink and you'll be able to read minds. And that, because language is so limited that you're going to have a lot better communication without like, what is that going to be? Like, how much more are you gonna learn about each other? And yeah. 0 (38m 52s): And I've been practicing in my intuition. I I'm proud to say has been cultivated more and more over, over the years, there is, you know, at a time when I was up my own ass where I was all head cock, like I communicated on two wavelengths, you know, intellectually and like sexually and the whole, you know, heart and intuition was offline. And when I stopped getting in my own thoughts and in my own brain, and then my other brain, I started to feel more and, and it, and sometimes feeling is painful. It hurts. 0 (39m 32s): It's, you know, there's no wonder I was trying not to feel, I was trying to numb that those feelings, cause it can be painful, especially if you have trauma, which, you know, we all do. And I did, but as I started to work through that trauma, start to purge some of it and let some of it go, there's a little voice. That's nonverbal, that's emotional. That's intuitive that I started to feel things out in the world and I didn't need to talk. I could, you know, I'd go on a date. And instead of telling myself, oh yeah, she's objectifying her. And she loves me. And this is what she wants is, is how I'm going to, this is what I'm going to do to get her. And I started to feel into her. I would realize she's not for me. 0 (40m 15s): You know, this isn't right. You know, this date is basically a friendship and I never had that before. I can never really dip into like the truth of a relationship. Cause I was too busy in the stories in my head that I was projecting. 1 (40m 31s): Yeah. Intuition's huge. And that's something that I think a lot of people have lost connection with and to kind of bring this to here. Cause I definitely want to get into the work that you're doing on, on the land. They say a lot of it actually has to do with our diet. So the things that you're eating are messing up like your second brain, which is in your stomach. So if you're not eating the right foods and the right nutrients and that kind of goat goes all haywire and you lose that intuition, which is real, like they do, they train people in the CIA on how to use it properly. Right. So it's, it's a very real, not hippy-dippy thing. So what I see a lot of conversations in the food space is that people are trying to kind of monopolize it and they treat it like IP now. 1 (41m 13s): So when you see things like a beyond burger, like the mission that they're on is to kind of create, they want to own that vertical. What you're doing here, I think is so fascinating because you're growing your own food and you're trying to have other families here to be as I guess, sovereign as possible. And to me, I think that I've heard talk about like scalability and people are like, well, if it's not scalable, but it's almost like these industries have become so inflamed that that's the reason that they're not working now. And there's these two authors that wrote it's called sacred cow gets into the meat industry. And it's like, well, the way that we're doing factory farming is obviously atrocious. I don't think anyone is like, yeah, that's how we should be raising our food. 1 (41m 57s): They're like, well, how do we do it? Cause we have to prevail to provide meat for the rest of the world. It'll say, if you have these tiny little localized farms that are regenerative and they work with the land, everyone can eat me in a sustainable way. It's just the model that we currently have is not sustainable. And the conversations aren't being had because that obviously doesn't, it doesn't benefit the people that are making the most profit right now. So I think where we're seeing the future of everything kind of going, especially even with web three, is everything getting decentralized. And then having like these smaller little tribes, it's almost like we came from tribes and now we're going full circle into tribes. And then we're gonna have tribes that do altcoins and NFTs and live in the metaverse and all of that. 1 (42m 39s): So I'd love to get into the work that you're doing here and what that big vision is. 0 (42m 44s): Yeah. So I guess the first thing is to respond to what you're saying. I'm looking to develop a ethical and spiritual perspective that I can then start to build upon. And so that took some time to just figure out like, what do I believe? You know, what's my relationship to things and money and food and systems and all the things. So, and I've been doing environmental work for a long time. So I, I have an understanding of conventional activism and environmentalism, but it's not working. 0 (43m 26s): The oceans are still getting screwed and there's still pollution. And climate change is real. So what's new. How are we doing? How are we going to do this? And yeah, decentralization is something that's really, really inspiring to me, the idea that we can create little cohesive, little island, like smaller islands of cohesion, little communities, where we can all be sovereign and self-sufficient and then network out to other communities that are also taking care of themselves. Cause What happens with factory farms and monocropping is once it gets to a certain scale, that's when disease starts to be introduced and it starts to ravage. 0 (44m 11s): And that's when cows start producing methane, you know, at scale, that doesn't mean that the environment can't handle because a system that is built an environmental ecological system, a farm system, a food system that's created in harmony with itself. There's no waste. Everything that is released goes back into the land like this maneuver on the ground is now fertilizing the field. But when you go to a factory farm, you have a lot of manure or shit that just ends up getting collected and doesn't get used because the environment can't use it fast enough. 0 (44m 52s): And then it just goes as a waste product. So when you have waste in any system, the system's broken and the way we're doing things is we have a lot of waste and it's this linear system where our plastic goes in the ocean or in the environment and is wasted. Our garbage goes into landfills and doesn't get reused. But in a regenerative, organic permaculture design system, everything gets reused and utilized within the system. So there's no waste. I feel like I'm rambling. 0 (45m 33s): What was the question? 1 (45m 34s): It was kind of like what, what your vision is and like the role of decentralization with like these inflamed industries. And I liked that you brought up the mano crop agriculture because I think a lot of people right now, they think that if they could automatically go vegan that they're doing something that's good for the environment. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. You could arguably say that that is just as bad, if not possibly worse than what we're doing with factory farming, because all the chemicals that you're using and all of, like, you're still killing an immense amount of living creatures. Like they're just a lot smaller and maybe not as cute as the ones that you're trying to save. So both of them, both of the things, anything at scale that big as a problem. 0 (46m 12s): Yeah. And I think it's important not to, you know, fall into cynicism where there's no solution, right. But I do believe that local solutions are the best where you start working in harmony with others so that you can have that tribe. So borrowing from technologies and wisdom, both ancient, bringing it back, bringing the tribe back, using technologies of plant medicines that are going to give you a lot of insight, you know, help you see the world in new and novel ways. And, and, and, and, and a touch of, you know, the, you know, the system, the, the, the, the way this earth is designed and then also modern technologies like using them to best support, whatever you're building within community. 0 (47m 3s): So, yeah, using crypto, which I'm a huge fan of in fact, here on the land, we're looking to build our own coin so that we can trade with each other and store value locally so that it doesn't get sucked up by centralized governments or banking systems. And that way we can start to raise the value of this particular land unto. And what we're building here is a diverse, interconnected network of systems, food creation, community building, social exp, and, and, and also familial, but like families five or so families living here all participating to grow food. 0 (47m 55s): Then we have enough food for the community. We share it with our neighbors. We can sell some to make a couple of bucks and then familial, how are we going to take care of each other so that we don't have, I mean, you're talking about searching for a nanny and how, and how hard it is to have any freedom or ability to move and operate, because, you know, you're, you know, you don't have anyone to watch the kids for a couple hours. So can we, as a community start to take care of each other and each other's kids just like they used to do back in the day, you know, it takes a village. Yeah, it does. So let's, let's create one. Yeah. All these things are, are, are being built and being created. 0 (48m 36s): And it's new and interesting and curious and fun. And I believe we should all be laboratories for what's possible. We should all be as individuals trying things. And then as communities trying things, because the system, as it is, is failing us, it's starting to collapse. We see it. So what are we going to replace that system with, as opposed to propping it up artificially, we can actually start to create the systems that will ultimately replace the current one. 1 (49m 10s): Yeah. And I think that's more important now than ever, because as you see things that are, I guess, being like, over-regulated, if you want, because you see certain countries and certainly this one that are considering doing like social credit scores, and that gets worrisome when you consider like the doomsday environmentalist that are like, you know, apocalypse now. So they're gonna be like, you've had your, your red meat quota for this week, or, oh, you don't like how many eggs you've had. We really want you to have this soy version. It's like, well, how do you maintain that sovereignty that you want when you have such a powerful system of saying that you can't do it. And to me, that's crypto and that's Decentralization. So if you have all of these little tribes and you have your own token, that no one else is in control of that value and they can't manipulate it as well. 1 (49m 56s): Right? Cause like we, what we see the U S dollar right now is manipulation. It's like things aren't only just more expensive. It's like your dollar is actually just worth way less. So that combination is going to be a problem for a lot of people, 0 (50m 8s): A man. And I see it all the time and environmentalist, and I've been doing this for 20 plus years, there is this arrogance in which everyone wants to control everybody and tell everybody. And I was there. I did, I did the same thing. Tell everybody how to be and try and run around, controlling all things. And it's the mentality, the colonial mentality, where we think we can go in and dominate Intel and control and have dominion over the world. Nature, we try and control nature so that it serves our bidding try and control people. So they serve, we exploit nature, exploit people, and it's the same. 0 (50m 50s): And, and it's, it's crazy to say, but environmentalist are, are also expressing many, you know, modern doomsday environmentalist mentality is expressing that same fear based control over, you know, people and the world and, and, and, and almost in a manic, neurotic fashion versus recognizing that nature. If we're learning from nature, it's about diversity, absolute diversity biodiversity, where each individual element is operating in its own sovereign way. And it's interconnected and working together. 0 (51m 33s): It's not about one monocrop mentality. That's going to tell you what to do and how to fix 1 (51m 37s): It. 0 (51m 39s): The minute someone chose to tell me they're going to fix it. I, you know, 1 (51m 42s): Go the other way I go 0 (51m 43s): The other way, you know, you think you're actually gonna it's it's and it's crazy to me, environmentally speaking, you know, we think, you know, okay, climate change is real. We're participating in and creating gases in the environment that are creating, or at least contributing to climate change. And then people think that we're going to come in and fix it. How the, the, the thing that the complexity of our current system, economically socially, that has been developed and, and established over hundreds of years, thousands of years. And now we're just going to fix it with like a one size fits all on drive electric cars. 0 (52m 25s): That's your answer, right. You know, don't do this, or don't do that, or do this, or do that. I think the only answer is how do we empower individuals to be more in touch with themselves, more in their intuition, in their hearts and a lot, not so much in their minds and their ego, but living as they need to on individual sovereign level to contribute to a positive world. And, and I don't know the answer to that, because that means everybody has to choose. Everybody has to be a part of it. And everybody has to start recognizing their importance in their power and then choosing to participate in it. 0 (53m 7s): But we had to create the systems that excite them, I guess. And so what does that look like? I don't know. 1 (53m 12s): I think it's, it kind of, they work in tandem with one another. So it's like, as problems start to get worse, like the solutions are kind of forced to arise and that's strictly just from, I would say capitalism partially. Right? So it's people, that's one way where profit is a good thing. And like that being a motivation for some people is a good thing. Cause like, if you want to save money I've who is, it's almost anyone who's like a proponent of, or opponent of cryptocurrencies are like, oh, it's terrible for the environment. Well, first of all, it's not true because it's kind of been debunked that cryptocurrency is worse for the environment than Fiat money. Like yacht monies takes a bigger toll. Right. But no one wants to say that just people that want to regulate 0 (53m 52s): It, then the calculations, 1 (53m 54s): Right. It's so new. But if you're trying to make the most, when it comes to mining, obviously you're going to be trying to save as much energy. So then you're creating an innovation there. And the same we see happening with electric vehicles. We're not there yet. So to have a policy that's like, everyone has to be electric by 20, 25. We were power grid already. Doesn't sustain what you have right now. So how is that going to work? So I don't think it's by forcing people, I think the problems will eventually start creating solutions with those entrepreneurs and like those inventors and then kind of trickles down to where the people start adopting that on like the level that they're able to, not everyone can go buy a $50,000 electric vehicle because gas is too expensive. Like that doesn't make sense. It's kind of like, let them eat cake So out of. 0 (54m 37s): Right. And they should just see, you know, solar panels. 1 (54m 40s): And then we're an in pretend that that also doesn't have a cost. Like, have you seen those mining fields? They're atrocious. 0 (54m 45s): Yeah. 1 (54m 46s): Yeah. And you have little kids that are digging tunnels to get minerals. It's not great. You know what I mean? Like this iPhone is not great. 0 (54m 52s): Yeah. So I still have a nine 1 (54m 56s): And bad. I upgrade probably way more than I should, but yeah. 0 (54m 59s): Well I, yeah. And then, then it's, again, it's, we're in a, it seems like we're in a conundrum, but that is life, right. We, and can we, can we just stop for a moment with trying to solve everything and change everything and can we just be, and I think once there's a lot, there's this, that's the way the power systems have been created, you know, that, you know, feel like we have to go around telling everyone else what to do and how to be. And back in the day, talking about old wisdom, tribal societies, it's not the way it was. 0 (55m 45s): People would come together and council, you know, and they would, they would, they would work together. But now it's, it's about power and dominance and Putin and, you know, and, and, you know, trying to like use violence and control. 1 (56m 2s): So with your plans for this and this community, is it going to be kind of set up like a dowel? So like the people that lived here would also be invested in the land and have like voting rights through however, the token share worked out kind of. 0 (56m 18s): Yeah. So we'll, we'll create a coin and then some sort Dow or Land Trust, or Land Trust Dow so that all of the land gets put into the trust or into the Dow. And then the community members don't own it. I think, you know, when, when you're invested in something, you, you have an interest in caring for it, but when you own it as individuals, it starts to separate us. It becomes separate. Like you own that. I own this. I think we, we own responsibilities on the land. 0 (56m 59s): So we each have something that, you know, we're the, you know, the, the soul, like the <inaudible> basically like you own the department and then you, you would be able to make decisions on that particular thing, but we would work together to take care of the land. So we've risen the land to the status of guru. Then you take the ego thing about it. Cause you know, whenever you do intentional communities or communes, the thing that always gets in the way is the ego of like the master or the, the leader who ends up taking advantage. Cause he gets, you know, ahead of himself or too big for his britches. 0 (57m 43s): So we take that out of the equation. So we serve the land and the land can get as big as it wants is as you know, abundant as it needs to be. And there's really is no limit. So that's in theory. And then, so when you, when you come to live on this land, you will buy into the trust. You will invest in the trust. Yeah. So you will own a piece of it, I guess. 1 (58m 9s): No, that's really cool. So do you, because you also have a fund, is this something that are they kind of in cohesion together? Like the fund would, I guess entertain the idea of helping someone else start this to not like scale necessarily. Cause it would be its own entity, but to kind of create more of these little pockets. 0 (58m 30s): So, so twofold. Yes. They're related because they're all tied together in certain lifestyle and a perspective. So all of our investments mirror, they reflect the lifestyle that we're building here, but at, out in the world. So they scale the, the ideas and the wisdom that we're cultivating here, but out in the, the world at large. And so through DuContra we invest in human development, personal development. So the upleveling of the individual sovereignty, you know, mental health, nutritional health, good gut gut biome. So that people are making the best decisions and they're sovereign and they're independent and they can make those solid, you know, wise choices community. 0 (59m 18s): So community Haas is one of our verticals of investing in tools to help people work together better or come together or collaborate. And then money is another thing. So the future of finance, how do we heal our relationship to money Fiat and otherwise, so that we can build tools and systems like crypto or other institutions to bring more equity and access so that when a human is leveled up and they're working with others to build the world, they have the tools money to go build it. And so then the final category is consumer goods. 0 (59m 59s): So what are they building consumer goods that are better for people on the planet. And we just, we stay out of the way we're agnostic in that way. We're not trying to make specific bets on companies. It's more category wide so that we believe within those verticals, people can be empowered enough to go out and build the world. And then by default it will be better because they're the ones being invented. So as we were talking before empowering individuals, as opposed to telling them how to do it. 1 (1h 0m 30s): Yeah, 0 (1h 0m 31s): Yeah, 1 (1h 0m 33s): No, I think that's great too, because I think there's this misconception that you're automatically bad or evil if you're successful and you're making a lot of money. I think it's like John Mackey that talks about conscious capitalism and to some people that seems like an oxymoron, but like if we all adopted this idea of ethics behind our profits, like what a better world that would be even on like an individual scale. So I've always said like, when you have this really big platform in this big audience that you've built over the years, that's great. But I think a lot of people kind of have this illusion that they own the audience and that the, that audience solely exists to line their pockets. And I think when you have that, it's almost such a waste. 1 (1h 1m 12s): And, and to me, it's wrong to not use it in an ethical way and also be having, having some exchange back and forth where you're also contributing to them and you're providing them with something valuable and I'm like, we exist for so much more than to just be rich. That doesn't make sense. And if you are in one of these very rare people that has hundreds of thousands or millions of followers, it's like, well, what are you providing back? You know what I mean? 0 (1h 1m 38s): So I know, I know John Mackey, he's, he's a local here. 1 (1h 1m 43s): I think he's great. 0 (1h 1m 45s): He's conscious capitalism. Yes. We have our own term that we say, we call Y BM. So you have ROI return on investment. Then we have YBM, which is a different metric, which is yields beyond money. So money. Yeah. ROI. Got it. But now what is, what is that thing that you can't quite calculate? You know, just, just beyond the edges of our calculators, the intangible, the ineffable, the judgment call, the wisdom, you know, all of those things. And, and that really requires, we always hire within two Contra people with high IQ and then a high, because they're making judgments, not just on spreadsheets, but they're making personal, you know, important judgements when they, you know, assess a company based on, you know, factors that you can even, you know, calculate. 1 (1h 2m 39s): And that's really important right now, too, especially when you're getting into like these new spaces, whether it's crypto's and if Ts are in the Metta versus like, you have to be kind of investing in that person and like their principles and being able to have some level of psychology to be know if that's an honest actor or not, because it's so new and unregulated. So to have someone that has a high IQ, which people don't think is real, but I absolutely think you have emotional intelligence. Just go talk to a few people on the street and you'll see the variance there. But yeah, I think that's really important. 0 (1h 3m 11s): Yeah. You're very, very perceptive. 1 (1h 3m 17s): Yeah. 0 (1h 3m 18s): You have the range of understanding, which is really where this conversation's been very, 1 (1h 3m 26s): It just goes expensive. I always have like notes and then I never look at them. I'm like, well, we didn't get to any of those, but we went to some really cool places. 0 (1h 3m 35s): Well, you want to talk about Earth Speed. 1 (1h 3m 36s): Yes, I do. Actually, 0 (1h 3m 38s): That was the second piece, right? So we have the investment vertical and then we have the lifestyle vertical, which is Earth Speed. And that's how we bring it all together. So we're investing in companies that are building companies of the future, but then we're also building a lifestyle platform, which is the way do we communicate and share this lifestyle, a lifestyle in the cadence of nature. So check it out. It's earth speed on Instagram and YouTube. And it's essentially just sharing my experience, learning, being the apprentice on the land, learning how to farm learning, how to be more self-reliant and self-sufficient sovereign and learning how to build this thing that we've been talking about. 0 (1h 4m 26s): So build this the community and, you know, and, you know, bring in crypto and, and the metaverse and also how to like cook better and eat better so that you, you can like actually infuse your microbiome with healthy microbes from fermented foods, how to use manure as compost, how to ow, a hay bale urinal that we just so we're having a party tonight. So just I'm so proud of this Hay Bale Urinal is the first step towards our full compost toilet system. 0 (1h 5m 6s): So we can actually start to use in this may be gross for some people, but it's not, it's fucking nature in which is so cool, but you pee into a Hay Bale. And so you have the perfect blend of carbon and nitrogen. So your urine has naturally, you know, is nitrogen rich, and then you have carbon. So within a compost system, you need a good blend of both greens and Browns, nitrogen and carbon. And then you actually becomes healthy nutrient dense soil. So that's, 1 (1h 5m 43s): So it'll help, help start breaking everything down in your compost. And then you use reutilize it as for right. 0 (1h 5m 47s): And this goes back to our initial conversation. When you start to accumulate a lot of waste, then it's, then you have to deal with it. 1 (1h 5m 55s): Then you get illness, right? 0 (1h 5m 56s): So when, when you're in a city and everyone pays into a toilet and they flush it and it goes into a centralized waste water treatment plant, you got to put a bunch of chemicals in it. You gotta treat it. It's, it's sludge it's gross. But when you, on a small scale, if you start to compost it immediately, nature will take care of it. Nature will turn it back into earth and then you can grow food and you can have, you know, better soil. That's, you know, th th that starts to absorb rainwater. So, you know, have a lot of runoff. It's not, it's not desert it's, it's rich and dense. And the soil movement is big right now, you know, with regenerative soil, that's actually helping to draw down carbon from the air and bring it into the soil and create really rich soil for growing food, which makes better foods. 0 (1h 6m 49s): So you don't have to add a lot of, you know, artificial fertilizers in the lake. So it's all part of this system. And so it starts with a Hay Bale Urinal, which I'm really proud of. I don't know how you would use it, but I need to build something. So you 1 (1h 7m 4s): Can staff 0 (1h 7m 6s): Some stairs, so you can squat or sit right now. It's just a free for the guys, But you can learn how to do that on earth. 1 (1h 7m 15s): No, I think that's so awesome. A lot of the content that I've been consuming lately, I call it homestead, homestead talk, and homestead Instagram, because I'm like, I want to learn these like really valuable tools that we used to have and just like would be passed down that have been long forgotten. And it's just how don't, I know how to do this. I just feel so unprepared to live, do it. Now, at least I know about the Hay Bale check. So getting there, 0 (1h 7m 41s): You know, when you look around the world and there's so much uncertainty and there's going to be some changes, you know, there's a lot of movement. I mean, look at COVID know, we prepared for COVID. Fuck. No, we weren't yet. You know, and that's what we're doing is we're I w you know, when we took Jamie's course, you know, he talks about prep, prep prepping for, for hipsters hipster prep. 1 (1h 8m 6s): You got a mad max score. Right? Did I? I think he did. I don't remember. 0 (1h 8m 10s): Yeah. 1 (1h 8m 10s): There was like nine people I did Eric's that I wasn't qualified. So he took my point away, but oh, 0 (1h 8m 16s): Right, right, right. Yeah. Like I'm definitely getting ready for who knows 1 (1h 8m 20s): What, 0 (1h 8m 21s): And not in a 1 (1h 8m 22s): Paranoid way, 0 (1h 8m 23s): Like anxious, fearful way, but in a practical, just prepping you in a way, you know, we're, we're, we're just being prepared for a rainy day or not rainy day. Right. Right. That's why we have rainwater catchment, so we're capturing water, but we can hold it and utilize it when, if there's a drought. So, and it's fun and you're, and you're in touch with the earth and there's nothing better. It's so grounding and fulfilling. So you're going to, you're going to get out there and help me plant some things today. 1 (1h 8m 55s): Absolutely. I would love to too, for sure. 0 (1h 8m 58s): Good, good. You're gonna, 1 (1h 9m 0s): Yeah. Well, we'll take some, some videos for Instagram. Yeah. But this has been awesome. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this, especially on a very busy day. Cause I know you have a very big party that you're 0 (1h 9m 12s): For me too. I love your show. I love your perspective. 1 (1h 9m 18s): I really wanted to do it in person too, because it's so hard to flow and like vibe. And there's been a couple of times that you would say a word. I was just thinking it, that doesn't happen through zoom. So yeah. Do you want to tell the listeners and the viewers like where they can support you, follow you and keep up with all of your projects? 0 (1h 9m 33s): Yeah. Well, I'm, you know, my name is Adrian Grenier, so on all the socials, but I'm really looking to grow earth speed. So check out at Earth Speed on YouTube or Instagram. DuContra ventures is my investment firm. That's also at DuContra dot ventures, all those things, and yeah, come join us in the lifestyle at the cadence of nature. 1 (1h 9m 57s): Awesome. Thank you. And that's it for this week's episode of Chatting with Candice. If you have a moment, please leave that five star review hit like subscribe. And if you know anyone that would enjoy this content, please share it with a friend two or three. I'll see you next time.