#96 Show Nemoto - Awakening the Soul, Eastern Spirituality meets Western Lifestyle

0 (0s): I think the beauty of of life and like having these conversation and actually connecting in, in the energetic level is to romanticize and to, to see the beauty of the possibility. Like I, I'm okay. The fact that, okay, it's, you know, your life is completely written already. That was none of your decision was actually yours. It's already completely made. It's like a fucking game. The video game. I'm fine with that. 2 (31s): Hello everybody. You are listening or watching Chatting with Candace. I am your host, Candice Horbacz. if you wanna support the podcast, please check out the sponsors and affiliates below. I also have all of the Links for my guest today. Today I am so, so excited. I have Show Nemoto on the podcast and I have been watching shows content just completely enchanted, engrossed. It is magical, it's beautiful, it's wise and I obviously have like a special place in my heart for all things Japanese. So I was really excited when I finally got in contact with show. I had been wanting to have him on the podcast for quite a while. 2 (1m 13s): I think he is an incredible role model. His content is is blowing up and I hope that it continues to grow. So please help me welcome Show Nemoto show. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I have been enchanted by your content, like there's no other word, just absolutely enchanted. I think like the love and energy and creation that you put into it doesn't go unnoticed. So I'm so happy to see like your accounts taking off and people really resonating with what you have to put out there. 0 (1m 46s): Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited to have a chat. 2 (1m 50s): So what I found so interesting when I was watching some of your videos is you mentioned that you've only been doing this for three years. And to me I would've thought a lot longer, especially with the numbers that I see and you explain in the beginning, like you did a whole year and you had like, what was it, 85 subscribers, but you continued Yeah. To press on. I was like, that is a different level of perseverance because I am also in the content creation world and I have my own plateaus and lack of traction and it's really hard to, to like swallow the lack of movement, the lack of growth. And then, you know, you do have some eyes on you, especially like friends, family, and the judgment. 2 (2m 33s): So how did you keep on going when you had such slow momentum in the beginning? 0 (2m 38s): Well, there's a f there's definitely one thing that I would need to address is that the support that I had, not the, like a financial support from my parents or anything, but at a time I was in Amsterdam and my friend to attitude towards paying rent and everything. So like my brother man ran the big shout out. He was really supporting me when I was literally just at the bottom. And I think with, with his support and the fact that I had a place to stay and, and then, you know, the fact that I have a people to talk to on a daily basis, I could just keep going. 0 (3m 22s): But it was, it was, it didn't feel, it didn't feel right though. Like actually putting, you know, so much effort basically whole here getting eight to nine subscribers in, in as a result. And you're like, okay, I, I dunno what to do now do. But at the time, like there, there's some people taught me like, you should do a TikTok. And I thought, okay, that, that may be a sign for me to, you know, like to stop. But at the time I was like, okay, TikTok is for kids. I don't like TikTok. It's just stupid shit. But that was my ego. So I faced my ego and you know what, there's nothing to lose. Let's just be stupid and make contents on TikTok. 0 (4m 3s): And that was the, the fast beginning of like having actual like viral experience. And then that re reminded me that hey, this is, this is what I wanna do and I think it's working. 2 (4m 17s): Yeah. 'cause in the beginning it was just the dancing, I was the same way. I was like, I'm not signing up for this a I dunno how to dance. I don't want to learn how to dance and if that's what it takes, I don't wanna do it. And I think that there's also a level of not identifying with your likes or your channel or your content, which can be really hard when you're sharing so much of yourself. But not to say, my video got 300 views so I suck. It's like, okay, well maybe there's all of these other ways that I can improve to get more traction or get more likes. But I think we all have a proclivity to, to focus on the external and then mistake that for our sense of identity. 2 (4m 58s): So instead of actually knowing who we are, we start to identify with functions, roles, success metrics that we can measure on the outside. 0 (5m 6s): Yeah, I absolutely agree. I think a lot of people also lower their own standards for just abuse and stuff like that, but it's, it's also, I think it's also part of the learning, 2 (5m 16s): Part of the learning curve. Yeah. So one of the questions that I had written down, which blew my mind, you mentioned in a couple of your videos that someone had said that you were the most negative person that she Yeah. And it made you start to kind of reassess and start looking into energy and it sounded like a springboard to this personal development. if you watch your content, you're like, there's no way. Like how is this person the most negative person in anyone's social circle? So what was the biggest change in mindset and habits from that person to the person you now? 0 (5m 54s): Well I think as you know, tells you that the, the girl that she you and the date with and slept with and literally just tells you like you are too negative to hang out. It's, it's devastating, right? And I remember that the same period of time I looked in the mirror and they're like, okay, do do, can I be do, do I wanna be 30 years old and 40 years and with who I am right now? And that was just too hard for me to, to not to decide, decide not to change. I was like, okay, five, that was like 23 years old or something. I'm, right now I'm 30 years old and seven years ago, right? 0 (6m 37s): And if I become 30 years old with exactly who I'm broke, just nothing negative, stressed, I don't think I can live like this. So that was painful enough for me to, to stand up for myself and then actually start doing something. You know, I started with the Meditation practices, my mentor back in the days, he was a, he was a model. He was teaching Modelling models to, to walk and pose and like mentality and stuff like that. And he just brought Meditation into the class and that was the, the fast introduction to the Meditation. 2 (7m 15s): That's actually really surprising. So what was, what was his reason for bringing Meditation Into Modelling into like the Modelling classes? 0 (7m 23s): I think he also like went through, a lot of people go through, 'cause he's now 49 or 50 if I'm right. So, you know, he was quite a star in back in the days and he came to a point like a zen and a mindfulness and understanding that the power of the present moment. So I think he wanted to bring that into not just deposing and shining and object and materialistic, but also like, hey, this is also representing who you you're and understanding who you're, so I think that was his intention. 2 (7m 54s): Mm. It's really interesting when you see someone like yourself, it makes me think like, do you feel like you have to challenge the idea that you can only be like beautiful or good looking or intelligent? Like you can't have both at the same time. Do you feel like there's like a stigma that you have to work against being like a model and obviously being very attractive and then also presenting like zen wisdom and like your, I did one of your meditations this morning and it was fantastic, thank you. Right? But so, so many people want to kind of like put you in a bucket because it's just easier for their cognitive load. It's not necessarily out of malice. So do you feel like that's something that you have to work against or do you feel like that's slowly going away? 0 (8m 36s): I think, I think it's slowly going away. When I was, when I was a model, the all I care was to be validated, right? Because, well, it looks like I think in a deeper level it's not, but it looks like we are judged in a validated basis on a superficial level. That's how you get the job and to work and stuff like that. But so I think including me back then, and a lot of models are relying on that idea of being wanted because you are beautiful on the, on the surface. But yeah, the, the, the truth, the lies underneath is the fact that it's who you are. 0 (9m 21s): It's like if you are very charismatic and if you are very positive, people will appreciate it because you know, end of the day casting is based on the people, designers are people and everyone else's people. So that we all have the preference and we appreciate the positivity. So 2 (9m 37s): How do you get to a place where you don't identify with like your current, your current body, your current looks, your current youth? I feel like that's a really hard thing for, especially for women. But I think for anybody, especially if they're facing the camera, it's like you see this version of yourself and then over as time goes on, obviously we all age different levels of grace, right? Depending on genetics and so many other things. But how do you look at maybe like an extra, well you don't have to worry about this right now, but like an extra wrinkle or an extra dimple or whatever that thing is. And then look at it with love and appreciation and saying like, this is like, I am not my body, right? 2 (10m 19s): Like, I'm having this experience, but you have spent so much of your time and your life, I kind of front facing with that. So how do you uncouple that? 0 (10m 28s): Oh, that was a good question. You know, when you, when you look at the lot of successful people in twenties, you feel like, oh, like I wasted my twenties and I didn't really invest any time or you know, I didn't really learn much in my early twenties. So if I look back like that, then I'll go, oh, like I wish I could have done this and I wish could have done that. And that kind of like reinforces the negative idea about the part of my life. But if you look at that early twenties that, hey, without that I wouldn't be who I am now today, which I'm very proud of my myself right now, then everything was perfect. 0 (11m 19s): I think just because you didn't really learn from your own perspective at this point, that doesn't mean that was not necessary. So from that perspective, I try to, to appreciate whatever happens in a small scale we can, we cannot understand, right? Like for example, like it's, it's crazy the last a few weeks for me or couple months to be honest, that I'm not a type of person that who be late on things and the events and meeting and stuff like that about it was always late. And then just like something is not right and I'm so, it's so stressful for me that, that nothing is working, but that thing, the event and what's happening is as perfect as the your whole life can be. 0 (12m 8s): So like I think the wrinkles and how I look and or the, the, the life event that happened or happening currently, not to put on so much fear and insecurity. I'd rather to just force myself to navigate. Let's appreciate and I think, I think it comes down to the practice of like, can you, can you direct yourself into, because you have, we, we all have the possibility to just to, oh fuck, that was, that was shit. Sorry to curse, but Oh 2 (12m 41s): No, you're fine. Was like, 0 (12m 43s): That was horrible. You know, that was, that was, that was, I wasted my time. But if you can shift your perspective and like I really appreciate the fact that I, you know, had to go through this and I really appreciate that I wasted my time so that now I don't do the same thing. Then I believe that we all can appreciate the wrinkle or two or 10 wrinkles or the, you know, white hairs and all the change in a, in a every level level in, in life. 2 (13m 18s): Yeah. For me, I think like true happiness and self-worth comes from accepting all of it. And it doesn't mean that it's like it's the absence of sadness or the absence of anger, the absence of whatever you're going through that that we can only exist within that polarity. Like it has to be nothing but pure joy and love. Otherwise I can't have gratitude for the moment. But it's like being devastated and then being so in love with that moment of humanity and like, yes, that pain is real, but like how fucking incredible that I can feel this. Yeah, how incredible that I'm in this human experience. And it can be really hard when you're in it, but I think it's, for me it's just reps, it's every time you can catch yourself like maybe like a limited mindset or a victimhood mindset or woe is me or whatever it is. 2 (14m 6s): And like you can catch that and then you choose to go up instead of going down. It's every single time you do a rep in the direction that you wanna go, the more of a reflex it becomes and the more that kind of alchemizes into who you are. 0 (14m 20s): Absolutely. Yeah. I love the way that you described. 2 (14m 22s): So when it comes to Wasting Your twenties, 'cause that was a, a massively popular video that you had posted, which is like, I wasted my twenties. I didn't get to watch it yet. But do you feel like that there is almost, it's a requirement to be able to experience like the hedonistic tendencies and the, like the frivol, the frivolous, is that a word? The Fri like being frivolous in your twenties, kind of like caution to the wind and just like purely exploring and just like self-discovery. It's like all of those actions that might seem like they don't have a purpose, whether it was you were just, you were partying too much or you were sleeping around too much or you weren't focused enough. But all of those things kind of pinging you closer to the path that you're supposed to be on. 2 (15m 7s): And it's like, through those experiences, you're defined, instead of saying you need to right away know who you are, know your path, know your mission, be incredibly disciplined. I feel like discipline comes with the exposure to temptation and like, and feeling like your own threshold for everything. 'cause everyone has a different calibration. Yeah. 0 (15m 27s): Does that make sense? Like I think yeah, it's exactly what you said, right? Because you, because I wasted in my twenties and I know there's a reason that I title that video, even though the actual video I talk about, like the things that I wish I knew. And then you should do that. So if you're in twenties or you know, any age that you are, it's not too late to start. But the, the reason why I titled that I wasted my 20 because I wasted it in a certain degree, that's why I can make now a decision that to not to waste my thirties or forties or fifties because of my own failure and an experience. I actually made a video, which probably will be dropped in sometime soon, already did on YouTube, which talks about the full philosophy from Zen, which a lot of people probably dunno, it's called. 0 (16m 17s): And one of them talks about that, that the zen cannot be taught through a language. It's, it's not something that, you know, you should learn from people by your masters telling you, you have to experience by yourself and the wisdom that comes from within. So I think my, my countless of failure and mistakes and the fact that I was done stupid dumb ass that taught me so much that any online contents or any coaches cannot teach because that is coming from me. And it's, that's, that's a true value, I believe. 2 (16m 56s): So your content focuses a lot on Japanese culture zen, but obviously it spans internationally like we're speaking right now, right? So do you see a really big Crossover in pain points between like the east and the west? So is there something that everyone is really struggling with or everyone is hurting with that transcends like their immediate culture? 0 (17m 23s): I believe every like Eastern philosophy and Western philosophy or any religion basically sends a same message. I think the approach is different. Like if you wanna go to the Hawaii from Japan, it's the, the, we should different take a different path. But if you're coming from Europe's completely different path or from us, but if the destination is the same, which is love and unity and to to be fulfilled and to serve and to to help others and to connect, I think it's the same message, but it's different language, different approach, maybe the different perspective, but we all wanna get to the same place so that Western like, it's, it's a great example that the Zen Buddhism is actually coming from India, but those Eastern philosophy and stoicism speaks of a very, very similar thing with the discipline and the rules and to, to be straight, you know, the honesty and everything. 0 (18m 24s): It's very similar. 2 (18m 26s): Mm. Yeah. It's interesting because I feel in so many ways, I feel like the West thinks that it's very, very advanced compared to the rest of the world. But we're seeing this popular movement of being curious about old traditions, old Philosophies, old Spirituality. And a lot of that goes back to Eastern philosophy. So it's almost like these things that we have written off as woo woo or it's not gonna help us with the climb. So it doesn't have intrinsic value, but we're coming to this place where we might have a lot of financial prosperity, a lot of techno technological advances, but there's still something missing. 2 (19m 10s): And a lot of people will say it's like this God shaped hole that we all have inside of ourself. So we're going back to these things that were previously written off. And I just think it's really fascinating that a lot of that comes from that side of the world and we're trying to get back in, in touch with it. I think your work is amazing in that regard. I wanted to talk about the your Favorite Samurai Philosophies because I was starting the five rings and then you had mentioned it and you had a little series on that. So I would love to get into what are your, like some of your Favorite Samurai Philosophies and how we can utilize them today? 0 (19m 46s): Yes. So one of the, my favorite quote from this specific Samurai called Mato, he's very famous, I think the, the, the author of the Book of Five Rings, he is in know as like a, the best Samurai, but there's a lot of story to it, you know, there's another guy called K Saki and in, in the story some people say is that success that like he actually lost to K Sasaki even though he did this little like strategy that he became, he came to, he came to the battle very, very late and that was one of his strategy because that actually affect the, the opponent Jiro Sasaki in an emotional level. 0 (20m 37s): So he was very stressful. So that was kind of like a strategy. And then that is not like a Samurai philosophy. You have to be, you know, show up and like, but his philosophy into fighting was very like, you gotta win. If you, if you lose, then you die. So if you don't win, the philosophy doesn't mean nothing. That's his philosophy. That's basically what he says in the Book of Rings. But one of his, the best quote is actually have a tattoo on it, but all exists within, seek nothing outside of yourself. There's nothing that, there's nothing that can enable you to be smart on it quicker and better and wiser outside of yourself. Everything's is within. So I can never seek anything, anything outside of yourself. 0 (21m 20s): And that is, I think we, we all, like you said, it is, there's a lot of temptations that gives us an opportunity to flip the arrow towards like environment people, friends and girls and boys and materials stuff and cars and whatever it is. But I think when somebody annoys, somebody annoys you, when somebody laugh at you, when somebody was, you know, broke your heart, I think we should flip the arrow, arrow and then back to yourself so that you can learn a lot and then you can realize and expand your self-awareness. 0 (22m 1s): I think that's what matters the most. And that's what I've learned the most, that I practice on a daily basis as much as I can. 2 (22m 13s): Yeah, there's a so allegedly, and I never know what's true because it's like, as time goes on, it's like this, the fish gets bigger every time someone tells the story, right? Like the time that they caught that fish. So when it comes to grandparents telling you stories, it's like every time it gets a little bit grander and more magical and more unique. So again, like, I don't know how true this is, but so my grandmother is, she's in her nineties and she's like this adorable, beautiful Japanese woman and she tells the stories about her home and like her lineage and all of this, and she has this collection of real Samurai swords and they're stored, allegedly I'm gonna be able to get them one day, but right now she's like holding onto them. 2 (22m 57s): And she would always tell us that like in battle, that it's thought that the Soul of the person that was killed with the sword, kinda like it's entrapped in the sword. So I've always just had this fascination with like Samurai and just like their mindset and the way that they lived their life. And there's this fable that, and I'm gonna butcher it. I like, I wish I reviewed it before this, but it's essentially that it, these Samurai had conquered a temple or like conquered like some kind of castle and they were taking like the, the king or whatever it was, and he was to be executed and this person spit in the Samurai face and the Samurai got filled with rage. 2 (23m 40s): So he left and the king is like, ha ha ha like I have escaped death. And like a couple days go by and he came in and he's like, well, why didn't you kill me? And he's like, if I killed you then I would've killed you out of anger. But now I've centered myself. And then at the end of it, he ends up cutting the guy's head off. So it's this story of like not becoming a slave to the external and not like being so easily taken by your emotions and being able to still do what you need to do, whether that's metaphorically or literally chopping someone's head off, but to do it from a centered place, like you can do the same thing from alignment and you can do the something else that is totally out of, out of bounds. 0 (24m 20s): Yeah, I actually have that story too. Yeah. It's, it's, 2 (24m 25s): Oh, I wish you told it. You probably would've told it much better. 0 (24m 28s): No, I completely forgot about that story. But it's, it's, it's, it's so true that the Samurai or the story teaches a lot of this emotional intelligence and I think that takes a lot of discipline and like understanding and self-awareness. I believe 2 (24m 47s): There's this idea, I forget where it was presented, and it's that without, without alignment and without self-awareness and, and total Consciousness that free will can't exist. That you're actually just, you're making decisions that you think are your own, but you're actually being kind of probed from the outside almost. Like if you were an animal inside of like a Skinner's box in an experiment or like that Samurai, right? Like you think you're making the decision, but your anger is making the decision. Yeah. So do you think that free will can exist outside of alignment and or Consciousness or do you think that it's something else? 0 (25m 23s): I believe everything is is is your decision, but at the same time everything is written like I like because we cannot know the truth. I think the beauty of of life and in life having these conversation and actually connecting in, in energetic level is to romanticize and to, to see the beauty of the possibility. Like I, I'm okay the fact that okay, it's, you know, your life is completely written already, that was none of your decision was actually yours already completely made. It's like a fucking game. The video game, I'm fine with that, but if it's completely my decision, that's also completely fine for me. 0 (26m 6s): And either way I think not to know the truth is also beautiful. So yeah, like to me, I think it's, it is absolutely free will, but in, I think in the neuroscience, like if based on neuroscience, then if you are automatic, if you are unconscious then you're just a programmed, right? So like you program yourself what a B is and whether it's education or yourself or whatever you're consuming, then you, that's, that's not free because it's just a pattern that you have. I don't think it's, I don't think that free freedom fits with that, with that what what we are doing based on unconscious. But if you can step back and expand your self-awareness and like, hey, like I wanna make a decision based on X, Y, z because that helps a lot of people or because that will challenge myself, whatever re whatever the reason that comes with it, if you are aware and then if it's uncomfortable, I think it's very, very important to, to address the fact that if you're making some decisions based, which is very uncomfortable and still doing it, I think that comes from your free will because there's something that you wanna go beyond of that discomfort. 2 (27m 22s): Yeah. It's going beyond like your immediate visceral response or your immediate like millions of years of evolution. It's no, I'm actively gonna make a choice that my body thinks is gonna kill me. Like if you're going into a cold plunge, like that's 100% you exercising Yeah, free will in that moment. 'cause everything in your body is like, I don't wanna do this. If you're somebody that like every single night you're putting on Netflix and you're making really bad food choices and you're skipping the, your workouts and you're like kind of letting your body go by the wayside, I don't know that that's necessarily free will. Or if you see someone in their driving and like, they just, you know what I mean, they are really aggressive and they have road rage. Like, I don't know that that's free will either. 2 (28m 4s): So I see these moments where it's like people are are offline. So it's almost like you have to have a massive pattern interrupt, which I think leading in leaning into discomfort can help with that pattern interrupt in order to take the wheel back. 0 (28m 20s): Absolutely. Yeah, a hundred percent agree. I think the pain is very, very necessary aspect to, to our life. 2 (28m 29s): You had this other interesting video and it was, and I wanted to like share it with so many people, but it says stop to Stop Chasing and to Start Attracting. Can you explain the difference between Chasing and Attracting and why Chasing doesn't work? 0 (28m 44s): Yes, and I like that. I liked that to talk, I I I love talking about this because a lot of people commented on that video, I'm not sure if it was on the YouTube that you're talking about or the short form contents on Instagram, but whichever it's, I saw the YouTube, okay, so a lot of people commented in it like, oh, if you are chase, if you're not Chasing, then how if you both are not Chasing, how are you supposed to, you know, connect? And I, I understand that the perspective, but I think there's, Attracting is very, very active. Like I'm not talking about passive Attracting. 0 (29m 25s): The, the Attracting is a verb and I think it's very, very active and it's supposed to be active. And Chasing is, if you look at the lion and deer and then if you had to lion Chasing, Chasing deer, then deer is running, running, running away from you. And if you are creating that dynamic, it's not about like the above itself, but I believe it's about the, the, the dynamic that you're creating because you are Chasing something or somebody and it's running away, then how are you supposed to get gay? Like if you are, but if you are Attracting, it means that it's like, it's like you're human. 0 (30m 5s): You put the trap and then rack get into that trap or like whatever the, whatever you wanna catch it, that get into the trap. And it was very active like action that leads you to not to do any effort, but you got what you wanted. I think that's a, that's a different dynamic and I believe there's certain effort and time and energy that you have to put onto to have this preparation for Attracting. It's not like you just sit on a couch and do nothing and you think that you're Attracting because that's very passive if you attract certain thing energetically because you know, we owe our energy, right? 0 (30m 48s): We owe our energy. And it, it's, it's, it's fantastic because the science shows that your brain transmit and receive the bi frequency like radio station radio and your heart is electric organ which provide, produce Electromagnetic field outside of your skin, which that's how we energetically communicate, which is amazing. You know, we can feel that like, I don't like his mood or like, you know, I don't like her vibe. That's us actually using that energetic feel to actually sense something that, hey, maybe we should stay away from that person. And that's, that's real. So even though we have that legit system, very, very powerful system, the tool that we can utilize, you know, using it. 0 (31m 35s): And I think that Attracting is understanding that something powerful even though it's invisible and being able to utilize it rather than Chasing around and you're so tired and, and, and oh, can't do it. But if you understand and like surrender to the fact that you never know, maybe it's tomorrow, but you are pre preparing that trap and preparing the whole system to attract something that comes into, comes into your life or comes to you. I think that's, whether it's a passive or active and that creating the dynamic of Chasing or Attracting, I think that's the most important part. 2 (32m 23s): I love that analogy of the lion Chasing like a gaz, a gazelle or a deer. That makes so much sense because even looking back anecdotally, anytime that I've chased, especially a partner, it boy did they run, you know what I mean? Boy, were they running? Yeah. And then it was the moment where I was at peace with myself and just had that knowing that whenever it is the time, like I will find my person and that surrender is what led me to meeting my person. And so many people know that, but they don't want to give up the chase. Like they, there is like that fear. If I'm not actively going after something, then it's just not going to come to me. 2 (33m 3s): But when you hear of these great love stories or even modern love stories and people sharing how they met their now husband or their now wife, it was after like a real reckoning, a real moment of radical surrender. It makes me think of like Matthew McConaughey talks about how he met his wife and the most recent one was on Lex Friedman. And he said, you know, that he was always like, well, I'm this age and I'm supposed to be married and I'm supposed to have kids. And then there was, you know, like that clock ticking and a lot of fear and a lot of anxiety. And he had to get to a place where he visualized himself in his eighties, never meeting the love of his life and ha and being okay with that. And after that he goes to this party and he sees his now wife across the room and he's like, what is that? 2 (33m 47s): And then the rest wrote itself, you know what I mean? It's, you create those moments. This young woman I know, same thing. Everyone was trying to set her up, set her up, set her up, a lot of like activation that was happening. And she's just like, no, no, no. She goes to this party and at the same time this man walks up to the door and they both just look at each other and they're like, there you are. And now they're getting married. And like there was just no, it was that moment of surrender and trust. So I don't, I can't prove it, but there's enough anecdotal evidence that even again, every time I've chased, boy did they run. And I'm sure that probably resonates with a lot of people. And how much easier is it, how much more powerful is it to just be that magnet and have everything drawn to you instead of you actively having to exhaust yourself? 0 (34m 34s): Yeah. And when, when you're Chasing when they're running away from you, they say they're so fast, 2 (34m 39s): Right? 0 (34m 40s): It's, it's like, it's like, you know, when you're dreaming, you're so slow and like when you're running in a dream, you're so slow and then you, you just can't catch It's logically it's, it's, you just can't catch it. It's exactly, it's designed to be, you know, fail to catch it. You know what I mean? Yeah, 2 (34m 56s): Yeah. One, so are you, do you ever work with animals at all? Or like you mentioned like your heart Electromagnetic field and it like made me think, 'cause it, yes, that is very much a real thing and people wanna dismiss it very easily and say like, it's woo woo or it's, it's magic. It's, it's not of like, of science. And actually 100% is it's something that you can measure, but with humans, I think people that meditate a lot more, like their field can expand and get a lot larger. But with horses specifically, I wanna say it's like five times that of a person, which is why like equine therapy is very popular. Wow. So I don't know if you've ever done e equ equine therapy or heard about it at all? 2 (35m 36s): No. No. Okay. So it's really fascinating. What you do is essentially you'll have like a round pen and you'll have the horse, and the horse is trained to be a therapy horse. And it's in there and you'll usually have a therapist, a coach, a counselor, something like that, working with you with this. And you'll go in the pen and they'll ask you a series of questions, and then you'll answer it either honestly or dishonestly, either consciously or unconsciously. And as you answer these questions, the horse will start to react to you, whether it's like a flick of the ear, whether it's coming closer, whether it's going further, whether it's turning around on you, and all of these things with someone who can read body language of horses, like understands what this is saying. And what's happening is there's actually an energetic exchange that's happening between your heart coherence. 2 (36m 20s): So horses are prey animals like they can't see very well, they're very vulnerable, so they have to be very energetically alert to any possible threat. And they're also a herd animal. So it's very important to know where everyone is in the herd. So if you are saying something and you think that you're speaking truth or that you're being honest, but you're not, there's gonna be an incongruency within your energy field. And then to a horse that's a prey animal, like that inconsistency or that contradiction is a risk to the herd so that they can't be like, you can't be trusted, so they have to move themselves away from you. So it's a really cool way to like uncover truth and trauma and honesty and like move forward through emotional blockages because you have like the ultimate like barometer right in front of you, which is really cool. 0 (37m 10s): Wow. Yeah. That's, that's my, but I, I believe that that animal is, is way smarter than, than us in our energetic level. You know, they understand something that we struggle to understand. 2 (37m 23s): Yeah, I think so too. I, I wonder about people that are so quick to dismiss animals as not being conscious. Like to me that's kind of psychotic behavior because you can look into the eyes of a most creatures and be like, there's something there, there's some type of awareness, some type of Consciousness, some kind of intelligence to say that it's not there I think is very like egoic and like inflated, like a very inflated sense of self. 0 (37m 49s): Yeah, I think a little people are very egoistic. I mean we, we all have the egos, right? And I think it's, it's about can you face that and to challenge yourself to, to make a decision or to to be aware of yourself through a different lenses. 2 (38m 8s): So how do you define ego first? Like what is your definition of an ego? 0 (38m 13s): I think ego is in the creation of your fear, your insecurities, your traumas, your limiting beliefs, because ego is a shadow. And, and there is somebody who's who said this, and I really love it and I use it all the time, but your ego cannot, your ego never leaves you alone. So if there's a sunlight, then there will be a shadow, But you can't just deny the shadow. And I think a preaching shadow and the fact that you have to walk with a shadow, that is something that we all need to work on. 0 (38m 56s): And I think that's a lot of work. Ego will, I think if ego shows up as a decision or as, as a kind of like ego version of who you are, that to me it almost feels like it's somebody's like taking over dominating my whole presence and Consciousness and like physical body and making decisions and to, to live my life. But I also believe that ego is a gift because again, you know, without the pain you never learn, you know, without my failure and all the comfortness of stupid things, I never really, I don't, I don't have a chance to actually get where I'm without all these failures. 0 (39m 40s): So I think ego is a gift that it teaches us. Like what is the most important thing in life, which is love and which is very, very positive. And it, it's, it's beautiful. And I don't think the sadness is is not beautiful. I think it's every, everything is beautiful because it exists, but what we truly unite and aligned at the end of the day is something, you know, love and fulfills you. And you know, like it puts a smile on your face. Ego can teaches us to show us the way, but there's gonna be a battle and there's gonna be like, if, if you are like, let's, let's pick up that animal thing. 0 (40m 23s): Like if you, you know, look at the animal and like, yeah, like piece of shit or like, you know, they're, they don't, they're not intelligent enough. I think that's just the projectional, some sort of manifestation of the internal belief that they probably experienced something, let's say, received some criticism or they, they were told that they're stupid or like those kind of experience can easily, they can reflect that to, to lower somebody or to, to put ourselves into a position internally that hey, I'm better than this guy, I'm better than the animal. 0 (41m 4s): That actually creates this sense of like validation. And I think that's, that's completely ego driven decision because that's coming from fear, that's coming from insecurities. So addressing that, the core belief and what happened and why you feel this that way is, is very a necessary process too to understand, okay, I, this is my ego driven self. 2 (41m 34s): Mm. Yeah. 'cause to me, again, it, that one's one of the scarier ones because if you have almost this blindness to be able to recognize Consciousness in something and like a living creature, how when does that stop? Or how, how dark can that get or how, how far can that scale out? Like is it just a whale? Is it, does that go to dogs? Does that even like eventually end up with people and then you, you start hurting people like to not be able to recognize pain or emotions or, or just being in another thing to me is, is really scary. There's a question that's really alive for me right now, and I asked it last night in this, this group chat that I was in. 2 (42m 17s): I was listening to the Lex episode and he recently had Yuval Noah Harari on, I don't know if you're familiar with him. He wrote Sapiens and Homos. He's like a really like controversial figure, like author, public speaker. And one of the questions was that I think Lex asked is, can Consciousness exist without intelligence? And can intelligence exist without Consciousness? 0 (42m 44s): Ooh, that's deep. I I think, you know, like we have all the idea of Consciousness, but like I have my own experience of DMT activation or you know, to, to get out from my body or like whatever it is. But intelligence, I think true intelligence is beyond time and space. So I believe that, yes, I, I believe that if the Consciousness is something that the grand scheme of the life and the universe, then I believe that without a Consciousness and I think cannot be existed because the Consciousness also beyond time and space. 2 (43m 32s): Yeah. I tend to, to be in agreement with that. The way that he answered it was he was saying that obviously intelligence can exist without Consciousness because we have ai and then he said plants. And where I push back on that is, I would say AI does have Consciousness. It's a collective Consciousness, right? It's, it's reacting like the intelligence is the output of everything that it's collected. Every question that every person has asked, every statement, the way that you're interacting with it, right? Like if you're Yelling at your Siri or you're Yelling at chat c b t and you're like, you stupid computer that's going into it. So all of that collectively is leading to that intelligence. And then he said plants, which to me, all of the research I've read about plants and, and what looks like intelligence also suggests Consciousness, right? 2 (44m 19s): So if you have a tree and there's a specific virus that is affecting the plants nearby, that tree throughout the network of roots will actually go and protect its saplings. Like it'll protect tree like it's tree babies over other trees. Like it prioritizes its lineage. And to me like yeah, that's intelligent, but that also suggests Consciousness. And there's this other study where they had, we had the, there was like a robot and it was in like this massive space, like I think it was almost the size of a football field, and it had a whole bunch of like baby chicks or baby ducks, like fresh hatchlings. And the computer was on a randomized setting to spend enough ti like random amount of time like focusing on different areas of this field. 2 (45m 2s): And what happened is after the hatchlings were introduced, they would move the hatchlings around, it would start prioritizing focusing on the hatchlings. And no matter where they moved, like that's where the computer would start focusing on. So to me, again, like that's something's happening that's beyond an intelligence that suggests some kind of Consciousness. And what that means, I don't know, because as you said, it's almost only this internal experience that can be validated only by ourselves. So I don't know if it's ever gonna be something we can measure or if we're just not there yet, or if we're not supposed to be able to, like, maybe that's part of the magic of it. 0 (45m 36s): Yeah. But it's, I think it's very similar. I, I don't, I'm not type of like tech guy, so I don't know what's the, you know, the AI know kind. I'm trying to learn the ChatGPT and all that. That's where I'm at. But I think it's very similar because, you know, the, the D n A and all that kind of thing is also kind of like data and a very mathematics I think in a way. You know, it's just a difference between very natural biological arts programmed and numbers and data within ourselves and all that kind of thing. But it's, on the other hand, it's a manmade data and all that kind of thing. It's fascinating though. 0 (46m 16s): Absolutely. I think, I think, I don't know where the AI will go, but I think we all have to adjust the new way of living because otherwise people will get left out. And I think it's gonna be very, very painful experience, especially people who has business. So I think we all should at least have an attitude to understand and accept the fact that, okay, this is new, but this is how it's gonna be. Like, you know, like a, like an iPhone when when iPhone dropped and we were like, oh, no way. Like we're not gonna touch bucket screen. But then now we're like, we, we, we just cannot, you know, separate ourselves now I think that's, we should be able to at least adjust 2 (47m 1s): To 0 (47m 2s): Whatever. It's, 2 (47m 3s): That leads me to this topic of creativity and the importance of it. So we have AI emerging, which people, some people are very terrified of, and I get that. And then you have the other perspective, which is the thing that it'll never be as human. And where it'll be, where it will fall short is creativity. And you have Jack MA's perspective, which is you don't need to work, you, you can just live and you can just create. But you have so many people that say, I'm not a creative because we have prioritized left brain thinking in a lot of our cultures, right? It's like, do climb, conquer, analyze those things and we haven't prioritized creative energy or art or expression. 2 (47m 45s): So how for, how do you tap into creative ener energy, especially moving forward? 0 (47m 52s): Creativity is, I believe everyone is creative, first of all. And I don't, I don't think everyone, anyone can deny that because we all create our reality. And at least that using your brain in a setting intention or having that pattern, even though it's an unconscious or subconscious, we create our reality in some certain degree, then that means we all can be creative. But I think we lack the inspirations because most of the people who, well, not food, but most, a lot of people just do something not inspiring or watch something not inspiring and talk to people, not inspiring then I don't think, I don't think there's a chance for, for these people to be creative. 0 (48m 40s): But if you always talk to people who is inspiring in, in the way that, you know, you want to be inspired, whether it's a success or whether it's art, whether it's a, the AI or the new things or the sports, then I think that person will grow their own creativity way faster than the people who's not inspired. And like, I came from a fashion world and I'm, you know, still very like into fashion, but I was so obsessed with getting inspired, oh my god, this person is like, look at this color, look at this, look at this texture and look at this, you know, like, oh, this, this item and that item in the rings and the details and everything else. 0 (49m 27s): So inspired by a lot of people all over the world. That's why I could train my creativity to express that with my body and with my taste and the, you know, video editing as well. Like, I was inspired from a lot people. That's why now I have some certain style that I can show it to the world and I can share with the message that I want to deliver. But that creativity also had to be trained by getting inspired, you know, listening to people and then watching people and then like, yeah, it's just genuinely getting inspired I believe is so, so important in, in any level, in any, in any level in life. 0 (50m 12s): So I think people needs to be mindful what kind of information and what kind of people and friends and everything else that surrounds you. Is it inspiring? Like, are you getting inspired to be creative rather than like, oh, I'm not creative. Like don't be lazy. Like you should take responsibility in that because you create your reality. And then from that perspective, it's definitely better to be creative. 2 (50m 45s): Yeah, they say it's the type of energy that the more you use it, the more you have. So it's, yeah, it just like, so it exponentially grows. So yes, like be inspired, put yourself in situations that you're gonna have novelty and have something that kind of like brings you to life instead of something that zoomies you or makes you just tune out. So go into nature, meet new people, read new books, make sure that the content that you're consuming doesn't, like, you know, when you watch something, it like triggers you and you're like, oh, that brings out the worst in me, so don't follow those people. Right? Like, don't consume it, you have a choice. But for some reason, I think we feel like we have to constantly know what everyone is doing. And sometimes, like you have to do what I would say most of the time you have to do what's best for yourself and not necessarily do things because you're like, well, if I unfollow them, it's gonna create a problem. 2 (51m 32s): Like if it's, if it's taking your piece away, then maybe it's something to, to consider. 0 (51m 38s): Absolutely. I have a friend and with, with a creativity then I think, I don't know your oldest, but you know, a lot of people nowadays want to gain more followers and to establish presence and or maybe to utilize social media for, for the business. I have a friend who recently reached 1 million of subscribers on YouTube, which is quite a lot, not as yours, but 1 million subscribers, you know, is is is big. And she literally told me, Hey, your channel is is also like growing really like significantly. And I was like, thank you, but congratulations for 1 million followers, subscribers. 0 (52m 18s): And then she told me like, I am like literally studying your videos, videos. And I was like, like Jill, you have 10 times bigger. Like your channel is 10 times bigger than me. Why are you studying mine? But she was like, she still studies, she still goes into these videos and YouTubers and like watch video and learn from it even though the channel is smaller than hers. And no wonder why that she, she gains 1 million subscribers. I think that's very, very important. You know, like learning and getting inspired without judging the number of the subscribers or the followers or the how famous they are. 0 (53m 3s): Like whatever, it's, 2 (53m 4s): Oh my, I I really detest that perspective. I, I can't stand when someone's like, well you have to have a certain amount of followers to be on or whatever it is. It just seems very like machiavellianism like means to an end. Like I'm just taking instead of giving, instead of leading with natural curiosity or having a beginner's mindset and saying, I can learn something from everyone. Not like I have a million followers. So unless someone has that right, like they don't know what they're doing. I agree. I think your content I like it is magical. Like I love the artistic vision that you have, the lights, the colors, the like the mood, the textures, like everything. 2 (53m 45s): There's so much thought put into it. So I mean, I have no doubt that your channel is gonna blow up everywhere. I mean you're already wildly successful, but I absolutely, like, I know it's going to continue to grow. So yeah, anyone that has that perspective that because they have more followers, they somehow have figured out something more than you, I think is nonsense because a lot of it is luck. A lot of it is timing and then I think the rest is discipline and reps, but there a big chunk of it is not something that you can claim as the reason that like, you can't claim it. Like you are the reason for that success because there is a little bit of serendipity that happens or a lot of it. 0 (54m 22s): Absolutely. Thank you so much for your compliment. Appreciate it. 2 (54m 24s): You're you're very welcome. And how, it's one thing I've been working on that you just did so beautifully there is receive and receive Compliments and not like ninja deflect them, right? So many of us are like, oh no, but like, what about you? Like, we immediately project onto the other person or we self-deprecate. It's very hard for a lot of us to receive and like, it's almost like the bigger and grander and more love that is being sent to us, the more we push it back. So how do we, how do we get comfortable with Receiving? 0 (54m 56s): That's, that's that is just so, oh, I love the question because I think, you know, you also have that part of the Japanese blo spirit in it. And I think we in, in Japan a lot of people say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, no, no, don't gimme a compliment. I like, it's, it's, it's the nationality as well, like as a Japanese. And then I used to do that a lot. But I, I think by saying thank you is is much more powerful because nobody is losing. And you know, by saying thank you, you basically shows that how, you know, just genuine appreciation to someone for, for the compliment and then you feel good. 0 (55m 46s): I think part of us, maybe part of us cannot believe that the compliment is real. I think that limiting self image is blocking that validation. And you know, in the beginning of this podcast I mentioned that I was looking for validation and stuff like that, and I kind of like mentioned in a very negative manner, but I believe that when you are making a change, validation is so important to collect because if you're trying to make a change and then somebody gives you a compliment, and then if you reject that idea, that's, that's basically you're rejecting a new life. 0 (56m 28s): Let's say you are not com you're not confident, you're not comfortable with yourself and you don't love, you don't love yourself, but now you, you start to working, you know, whatever it is and work out and meditate and stuff like that, right? And like you look different, like you look, you look amazing today, and that is the instant confirmation and physical evidence that your reality is bending. Mm. But if you reject that, the change that means that it will like bend it back to the old reality. So I teach, I tell everyone that if you start making a change, only if you start making a change and you start getting that confirmation and physical evidence and the validation from others, because you'll, and then you'll receive tons of it and collect all of those and collect them as much as you can and just like, oh, thank you, that's mine, that's mine, that's mine. 0 (57m 23s): And then that literally brainwash yourself with a new reality. And I think a lot of people struggle, like you said, you know, you brought a topic. I'm very, I really appreciate that because you need to allow yourself to, to collect those exchange of thank you. Because otherwise your reality will just bend it back and bend it back, even though you put so much air effort and energy to trying to, you know, manifest something or trying to change something in your life. I think understanding this, you have to collect those evidence because essentially that will brainwash you and then change the belief in a core level of belief that you have that you, you're ugly or like your life sucks. 0 (58m 8s): But now it's like, hey, okay. You know, that's like change, change everything in a bigger scale. 2 (58m 20s): Yeah, I think it's letting go of the commitment to whatever that self-deprecating thought or behavior it is. Like if it's no, I'm not a good parent or I'm not, I'm not good looking, I'm not smart enough, I'm not enough, which is usually just, you know, throw that on to anybody and they'll be like, yep, that resonates with me. Like I'm not enough, whatever it is, letting go of that commitment and saying, no, I'm going to take this on and I'm going to slowly step into this better, higher version of myself and I don't need to be identified with all of this shame or lack or whatever it is. I think it's really hard because feeling, I don't know, feeling balanced or feeling good enough or feeling love enough for yourself can be really hard because of whatever programs we have, whatever, you know, we got bullied or maybe we didn't have a parent that was giving us what we needed at the time, whatever it is. 2 (59m 15s): So you have to kind of like re-identify and like choose and choose a higher path. And then it goes into accepting those things. Like as a, a confident person isn't going to be batting away Compliments or love because they're gonna be like, yes, I'm worthy of that love and I'm worthy of that, that praise, so I will take it. So I think that's step one. I agree. 0 (59m 35s): Yeah, hundred percent. We gotta, we gotta collect all of those. 2 (59m 38s): Collect everything. Yeah. I wanted to get into the idea of Being Busy. That was one of my favorite recent videos that you did. It was a short on TikTok and you broke down the Japanese word for busy into two words. And I would love for you to get into that with, for the audience, 0 (59m 58s): With the specifically the busy. 2 (1h 0m 1s): Yes. 0 (1h 0m 2s): Okay. So the busy in, in Japanese or it's, it's actually originally China because it's a Chinese alphabet, but it's two different alphabet that basically becoming the one single alphabet represent busy. And then when you break it down into two words, basically the one means heart and the other one means nothing. So if you break down the, the word mean busy, then you can read two letters as you lose your heart and all the Chinese alphabet actually have a story behind, or the reason that how it shaped and how it became that word. 0 (1h 0m 47s): And it's very beautiful by the way. So like a lot of people actually know this in, in Japan, but When, we are too busy with work or in your head tasks. We forget the most important thing, which is just to being present in the moment. Right? And a lot of marriage are failing because of not looking into the partner's eyes and have a quality time with the family. I think a lot of our bad patterns and toxic behaviors or some projection or manifestation of limiting beliefs, showing up in a, in a family matters quite strongly. 0 (1h 1m 31s): And you know, I'm not gonna put myself onto someone else, but I'm also still working on the, the, the part with my own parents and all that. You know, it's, it's, it can be very, very challenging, but I always remind myself that when, whenever you're busy, there's gonna be a moment that you regret the fact that you didn't do something about it. When, you know, when you knew that like you could do something about it. And there was actually a comment on that specifically video, which I break broke down the, the busy, I believe it was a, it was a guy, and this common goes, I took, I totally understand this because I had, my dad called me and I was too busy to pick it up, but the next day he was gone. 0 (1h 2m 26s): And that was, I just like, just accidentally found that comment because I doubt a video had a little of comment, but, and it just, it shocked me. Like I think we are, we are too arrogant to say that, oh, that's not gonna happen to me. You know, oh, those, those like crazy worst experience is not gonna happen to me. I think that if you say that, I think we're too arrogant 'cause anything can happen in the future, like in one second ahead of the future, anything can happen, right? And I think I took that comment very seriously. 0 (1h 3m 6s): So I'm, and always I think it's just what we can do is to remind ourself to take that action rather than not take an action and regret later because everything's happening in this present in the moment. So 2 (1h 3m 25s): Yeah, it's a, it's a really powerful video and that comment is, is really devastating. There's this, there's this photo I saw and it was kind of like a cartoon and it was one of those things that go passes through time. So it has like four different blocks. And in the first block it's a small child looking up at his dad and he's like, play with me. And the dad's like, not right now I'm busy. And then it's a older child and he's like, come here dad. And he's like, not right now I'm busy. And it's like the dad working or trying to do something and then it's a grown man and he's asking for his father and it's not right now I'm busy. And then the last square is the dad who's in a wheelchair and he is very old and he's asking for his son and his son said, not right now, dad, I'm busy. 2 (1h 4m 11s): And I say that and it like makes me so emotional just thinking about it because it's like, especially with kids, it's like how often do we get in these places where we are not exercising free will where we are just the rat on the wheel and we're just going after this thing, we don't even know why and we're missing the whole reason. Like everyone is searching for purpose. Like what is my purpose? What is my meaning? And it's like that is what it is. It's presence. That's it. Like it is just to be, it's just presence. It's whatever is in the now because that's all that there is. And those moments that you're just swatting them away and you assume arrogantly that they're gonna be there tomorrow or even in 10 minutes it can be devastating. 2 (1h 4m 51s): Just like that comment. So it's radical honesty within yourself and where you're allowing your time and how many no's you're giving to the people that you love in your life versus how many yeses including yourself. 0 (1h 5m 2s): Yeah. Wow, that was so powerful that really, that's, that's exactly what the relationship looks like to, between my mother, me and my mother because like she was very busy, but you know, she was walking and walking, walking to, to become independent and to, you know, make me happy and trying to keep my future like protected and all that. But I feel like now I'm in that phase, so I'm like, okay, I, I'm really busy. And then I, I literally saw that myself like, oh, it's the situation flipped. 0 (1h 5m 44s): Like it used to be different. And I, I used to the one that, you know, like I was kind of kid that like understood, you know, I wanted to just support my mom, whatever she's doing, even though, you know, she was always too busy to, to listen to me. So like, oh yeah, like whatever I say, she's not gonna listen or she thinks she's listening, but she's not. So she'll ask the same question like twice or three times and that really flipped it, right? And now I'm in the kind of like a similar situation that she was before and being able to see myself that the fact that I'm in a very similar situation, which means that she's experiencing the exact same emotional experience that I did that I was. 0 (1h 6m 29s): And now I think my free will needs to make a different decision. But if I put myself in that, in this old pilot pattern and I think that I lose my power, which is the, the free world that we, you know, circle back to the conversation. But yeah, it was, wow, it was very powerful, very, it made it emotional. 2 (1h 6m 50s): Yeah. I'm gonna have to try to find that artwork to throw in here. 'cause it when you see it too, like the visualization is just like, it's so heartbreaking and yeah, how easy it is to get trapped in there. Especially when you have a culture that Id like idolizes Being Busy, right? Some people I've seen post their calendar schedule, like their eye calendar and it'll have all the dots and it's like every day I'm doing something and I'm like, the fact that you think that's beautiful, it hurts my heart because that's, yeah. I think you're missing a lot of the beauty of like spontaneity and serendipity and, and presence when you're doing something like that. Like you're forecasting three months out and you're like, that's success. I'm like, I'm not so sure. I'm not very convinced. 2 (1h 7m 31s): And it leads me to the extremity of what that is, which is Roshi, right? So literally working yourself to death and in Japan there was like, like an epidemic of it where men would just be dying on the subway, like in their suits. They would just be on their way to work and just not, not wake up. And that's what Being Busy or being so disconnected from your heart is gonna do. And if you think that that extra dollar, a hundred dollars or whatever that number is, is gonna be somehow more valuable to your family than you coming home, then you have, you are truly lost because, you know, there's always another way to like create an income or to, you know, take care of your financial needs, but there's only one of you. 2 (1h 8m 17s): You know what I mean? So yeah, it's really, it can be, it can be very extreme if you don't snap out of it if you don't do that pattern interrupt. 0 (1h 8m 26s): Yeah. And then especially that when it comes to that, the Japanese culture in a working, the reason why, like, I lived in, I lived in Netherland, Amsterdam, Netherland for three years and I was really shocked and I've learned a lot of great things from, you know, the working culture and how the government works and just, they go home at 6:00 PM and they don't do no, no work, they just, you know, open the wine and start drinking and chilling in the canal and stuff like that. But I think because the Japan t and I think the country makes people believe that, that this is the default. 0 (1h 9m 17s): So I think if you have the collective belief, it becomes moral. And if you break the moral, if you break that common sense, then you're gonna be a bad guy, right? Like everyone has to follow. And then Japanese people are very like, we are that we are people who just love following the rules. And I think that comes from the respect too. We have a massive respect to others and I think we should have more respect to ourselves, but that's where we are at the moment. And so that if, if everyone else believes that, yeah, you have to work hard and you have to like cure yourself like with the, with the amount of tasks and just go home and like sleep and come back. 0 (1h 10m 0s): Like if the country like force everyone to believe, then everything else outside of the belief is, is weird. It's, it's not normal. So I think the, what I've experienced in Netherland was country has collective belief that hey, you work this amount of time and then you should be treated well and you pay taxes and then if you pay taxes, we are happy. I think that's very fair and very rational, but Japan is different. We don't have that like the collective belief the country provides us to believe. 0 (1h 10m 45s): So just whatever you, you have to eat whatever you on table. And it's very heartbreaking though, like, so the company takes advantage of the people, right? Like it's easy because oh yeah, everybody believes this and you have to work hard and like, you know, you have to basically just waste your entire life working and working, working. And the company, every company that exists in Japan is if they're not prioritizing their health and some sort of, some level of implications and some level of like physical and mental health on the people who's working for the company, I think they're just absolutely taking advantage on people because knowing that they, they have the country have the, the collective beliefs and that Japanese people have massive respect to other people, which is very sad. 2 (1h 11m 38s): Yeah, I think it's the respect, I think it's, they're very agreeable. Agreeable, right? Like they, like disrespect is huge with my grandma. That was massive. And I think it's also this idea of discipline and duty and then casting off enjoyment and pleasure. Like those are frivolous, right? That's not honorable. And I think anytime you cast something out entirely, like, I don't know, you're almost dishonoring like you said, dishonoring yourself. So you have to have more of that respect for yourself. So it's how do I integrate all of these things? How do I not become owned by my desires or my pleasures, but still see them as valid and necessary, right? 2 (1h 12m 19s): It's just discernment. And so I think just to completely cast it off and say just discipline is the only way leads you to, leads you to Roshi in some ways. And you see like the birth, birth rates across the world are all going down, right? But I think in Japan specifically, it's, it's pretty alarming, like how many people are not having kids. And I saw the average age of of men that are losing their virginity is like 30, right? Like that's, that's really, really high globally speaking and people aren't getting 0 (1h 12m 54s): Really 30. 2 (1h 12m 54s): Yeah, 30. Yeah. And it's, it's 42%, 42% of men, 18 to 32 are Virgins. Like that's crazy. So people kind of try to figure out the, cause there's no way to definitively know, but you can see maybe some correlations, some people were blaming the economy, some people were blame blaming, how do you say it? Manja manga, like the anime manga. Yeah, yeah. And they're saying that they, the culture is prioritizing fantasy and not reality. And then you have to ask, well why is that happening? Because scaling out, I feel like Japan has always been a little bit more technologically advanced, like more on the forefront of technology. 2 (1h 13m 36s): So if they're getting so captivated by technology, what happens when you have things like VR or augmented reality or meta and you have something that is like way more engrossing and way more enticing to leave reality. So how can you find the beauty in this three d in what is actually around you? How do you find beauty in love and vulnerability and having a family instead of this escaping that we see a lot of these young people doing, 0 (1h 14m 8s): It's a, the biggest problem in, in that level, like man and woman, man being masculine, woman being feminine. I think it's worldwide topic, it's very, very hot topic. But I think Japan has the biggest issue with that because of the education, I think let's say in the US I think in the US has more open and like you have to basically put sell yourself, like raise your hand and like, you know, push yourself otherwise, like that's, that's the culture. Like you speech, you speak up and then you tell your opinion. And that's kind of like the, the US education from the outside perspective. 0 (1h 14m 53s): And Europe as well, especially Europe has a very, very high education, you know, like in Amsterdam, like I met a lot of people, like most of the people that I met speaks three, four language languages, which is great, but Japan has a very interesting education system and nowadays it's getting worse because, you know, the older teacher, like, I don't blame them, but like they're also be working for the government or company, so they don't have the massive responsibility to change their education. But a lot of parents goes to the, the, the school and they're like, oh, like my children is not stupid. My children is amazing and X, y, z and so that educate that the teacher don't wanna deal with all these fucking mental crazy parents. 0 (1h 15m 41s): And they recently, like some school, you know, when you, when you, when they do like, like a, a theater thing, like you know the play, they have like a 10 Peter Pan in one play. Like what is that because oh my, my kid has to be Peter Pan and why, why my kid has to be rock and then that kid has to be Peter. But that's, that's parent's ego. That's, that has nothing to do with the kid and you cannot, you know, well it used to be the teacher hit you with the, the thing or like you hit your head and like I experienced that. I think my generation was fortunate because I was, I was slapped and I was kicked because of the, the basketball club that I was in. 0 (1h 16m 28s): And I was really to experience that discipline and, and bit of violence. So that, that experience made me a little bit stronger man, because otherwise I would be like absolutely a little bitch. But that experience in high school made me a slightly bigger man and learned a little bit about the taste of the discipline. But now there's no average number of the test. Like if you do a test zero to hundred and you basically can easily curate the, the average number, but they don't do it because if you show the average number, then it determines that your kids are stupid or your kids are, and by indicating that your kids, it's stupid because the, the fact that the number below the average, it affects a kid's mental health. 0 (1h 17m 19s): So we are taking that path in education, which makes kids so mentally weak that they cannot function in a society. 2 (1h 17m 30s): Mm. 0 (1h 17m 31s): And it's so sad and how the, how the hell are we are going to carry that. The label of the the Japan is amazing in Japan is is technologically advanced in Japan is is is like one of the, you know, the most desirable place to visit. And then we have zero resistance to the stress and we have zero mental stability towards everything and we have not enough kids in the first place. I think the country will be, I don't know, maybe part of the China eventually, I dunno. But I think it's, it's a possibility. That's how for sure that's how fucked up it's, 2 (1h 18m 14s): Yeah, definitely. It's really concerning right now they're basically saying there's a certain level of births that have to happen in order to sustain a civilization. And I think it's like two point something is the metric and Japan is like half of that and it's like every, you're getting lower and lower. And that would make sense is that if you felt an over like an unbearable sense of overwhelm in reality that you would of course escape. So it kind of goes to the importance of discipline and, and giving your kids challenges and pain, not, maybe not necessarily physical pain, but some kind of pain to overcome in order to build that anti-fragile mindset and I don't know, like that drive. 0 (1h 18m 56s): Yeah. Like yeah we need, we need more like strong people. 2 (1h 19m 5s): That's fascinating. Yeah. Well hopefully there's a turnaround because I, I would personally be like devastated if all of that culture just disappeared and then just got gobbled up by China. Like there's just something so beautiful about people and the way of life. Yeah, but it's definitely not at a place of self-sustaining at the moment. Yeah, 0 (1h 19m 23s): But I believe that, I believe that it's, it's within their spirit because we have the Yama Yama, which is Yato spirit. Yamaha is actually the pre-me of Japan before, before the country named Japan as Japan. They call themselves Yama Tku. So it came from that like the vast preme of Japan and then we have that spirit, the YA is very disciplined, it's very stoic, close, very stoicism, you know, Samurai and all the zen and all the, the very strong man I think it's within us. But I believe that in general, in overall worldwide, I think we are lacking the presence. 0 (1h 20m 7s): I think that we, we we're missing the father figure. Like I believe that like Andrew Tate, Aubrey Marcus, they, they, they're father figure, like they're strong father figure and I think a lot of people missing that part. Like in Japan we don't have anyone who is close to these figures and their English speaker clearly. So I believe that we need somebody like them or like, you know, I think lot people who's doing the podcast as well, like, well Steven Bartlett is not really father figure in my opinion. 2 (1h 20m 40s): No, he's still young. Yeah, 0 (1h 20m 41s): But he's he is very, I think he's going be like what? Like that, yeah, 2 (1h 20m 45s): For sure. I think so too. 0 (1h 20m 47s): The, the guy from the Impact, I forgot the names. 2 (1h 20m 50s): Tom biu. 0 (1h 20m 52s): Yeah. And the School of Greatness, again I forgot a name, but Lewis, they're very like, yeah, strong father figure. And I think the Japan needs these people to, to guide and to lead people like, like seriously. 2 (1h 21m 8s): Yeah, I think so too. I think that it helps to see someone that looks like you. It helps to see someone that has the same like cultural experience. It's a lot more relatable. It's harder if you have someone else that's halfway across the world and living a very different life to resonate with you. I will say I think that what happens when you don't have that father figure and then you're looking to outsource it through someone, through content creation, that's when you get an Andrew Tate because I think Aubrey Marcus' wonderful, I think he has a lot of great messages. I think Andrew Tate is like, he's like that mischievous guy that seems like he has a lot to offer, but I feel like it's very superficial. 2 (1h 21m 50s): It's like a very juvenile expression of the masculine, right? It's like the cars and the women and the gold chains. And that's fine if that, like you're doing it for different reasons, but I feel like he's doing it to capture young minds that are very materialistic and I think he has some, I'm not discounting it right? It's like not, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. But I think fundamentally that's like the, the underbelly of what the masculine is and then you have the higher versions which are like the other men that you listed. So again, it's like all of these dangers of not having a father in the home and then having to be like very meticulous as to who you're gonna have that proxy be. 2 (1h 22m 32s): And it's really hard when you're young, I would imagine, especially when the things that you think are going to get you status are being presented as almost like false idols, right? So I think that that could absolutely be you, you could be this figure for, you know, the Japanese youth coming up because I think you present like you present wisdom and guidance and then you also present taking care of yourself. You're still younger but I think it's just like, you know, like those other men that you listed, it's like growing into like that, that leader for people. So again, I love your content. I really hope that people check out your channels because I mean you can see the love there and there's a lot of really great information. 2 (1h 23m 14s): Before we wrap this up so you can go to bed, would you like to tell the listeners where they can follow you, how they can support you? Any projects you're working on, this is your time to plug away. 0 (1h 23m 26s): Beautiful. Thank you very much. And first of all, I really enjoyed the chat today. That was, yeah, that was very emotional, beautiful and very inspirational. I think I, I learned a lot, so thank you so much. Thank you. And yeah, I have, I don't know, like I do have a coaching and I'm here to help people to guide and navigate because I didn't have that figure, I didn't have that guidance when I needed the most. So I'm here to, to guide and lead people to take control in life. So yeah, if you are watching and if you do believe that you're ready to make a change, then check out my page. 0 (1h 24m 14s): My YouTube channel is Show Nemoto, S H O W N E O M O T O. And well if you type the name on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, pretty much their all active platform. So we'll see you there. 2 (1h 24m 30s): Awesome. And I'll link everything below for everybody. Thank you again. Thank 0 (1h 24m 33s): You very much. 2 (1h 24m 34s): And that's it for this week's episode of Chatting with Candace. Before you go, if you liked the episode, please share it with a friend too. On social media, the best way to grow a podcast is word of mouth. if you have not hit that like subscribe button or left a five star review, please do so. It takes less than a minute. And all of those things help the podcast chart continue to chart and trend and also grow and help more people find amazing content like this. I will see you next week. I love you all so much and thank you for tuning in. 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