#97 Rebecca Rosen - Are Psychics Real? I got a reading to find out.

0 (0s): When we die, we don't have pockets. We're not taking our things that we accumulated, our portfolios, our bank accounts, the credentials we earned. You know that all goes away. The only thing that survives is love and, and in that love is our worth. Okay? And our worth is not based on anything external. It's based on the amount of light we held. 2 (30s): Hello everybody. You are listening to Chatting with Candace. I'm your host Candice Horbacz. Before we go into this week's episode, if you have not hit that like and subscribe, please do so, it helps me with the algorithm and wonderful news everybody. We have been charting at the time of this recording. We are charting in Canada and in the US and I'm not talking about in our category people. I'm talking about out of all podcasts. And I could not do it without all of you. So thank you from the bottom of my heart. I so appreciate this. This is a passion project of mine, so it's really cool to see it taking off after a couple years of really grinding it out. So yeah, there's that. We're gonna link some affiliates and sponsors below. So if you wanna support the podcast, you can. 2 (1m 11s): You can make some purchases of products and programs that I've actually used or you can go to Chatting with candace.com and click either the link that says Buy me a coffee or Patreon. Get early access to episodes, sneak peeks at upcoming guests, get to ask some questions. So that's a really cool interactive platform. This week we have Rebecca Rosen joining the podcast. She is a medium, a bestselling author. Her latest book is What's Your Heaven? She's also the host of the Small Medium at large podcast. This podcast is gonna blow your mind. It's very woo. So if that's not something you're into, just know that before you, you continue on. But it's incredible. We start the podcast off with a reading of yours truly. 2 (1m 55s): And I kind of sprung it onto her last minute. There were some really cool insights, things that there's no way she could have possibly have known. And yeah, let's just jump into it. Just buckle up because we're about to get spiritual. Rebecca, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so excited for this. Anytime I get to kind of dig into the woo or anything spiritual, I just get so energized. It is the thing that I am the most curious about and the most alive about right now in my life. So I'm so excited to see where this goes. 0 (2m 28s): Oh, thank you. Well it's so great to be here and I love how open you are, you know? Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And so I'd be happy to tell you what I'm getting if you're open. 2 (2m 40s): Yeah. So like we, so for everyone who's just tuning in, we discussed before we hit record that I was curious if she would be comfortable doing some kind of a reading. Reading. We're just tuning in, so I'm about to find out with all of you. So yes, please, please share. 0 (2m 54s): Yeah. So you know, right when I saw you, there was a very strong guide. And right now, if you notice the technology, do you see how the screen is getting a little bit fuzzy? That's energy. Okay. And that's usually because you have strong spirits around you, but your energy is very strong, high vibrational one of, so this guide, it's a, an angel when I see the colors, okay? Versus like a form of a human. It's a very high angelic guide. It's a purple violet color. Okay? And they're showing me that you are here to help others, almost like a networker. So you bring people together and you connect with them, whether it's with other people or with the resources or tools that they need. 0 (3m 43s): So the guide's applauding you 'cause you're showing up and doing your work. There's either a father who passed on or someone who's like a dad to you and he's standing here. and that would either be again, like a grandfather, a father figure of some sort. And he's very strong, he was very spiritual, but maybe didn't necessarily like talk about all of this in life. And did you know your maternal grandparents? Because that's where they're taking me. So mom's side of the family. I 2 (4m 11s): Know my mom's mom, I never met her dad. 0 (4m 14s): Okay, so what about her And both of them passed away, correct? 2 (4m 20s): Just the dad. 0 (4m 21s): Okay. That's the dad that's here. And then she's, wow. Yeah. So that grandfather who you didn't know on a human level, but on a soul level, he's part of your soul family. Okay? And what he is showing me is that something about heart. So there was either heart issues or there's hereditary heart stuff in this family. Okay? Oh 2 (4m 41s): Wow. That's so interesting. So my dad's dad died of a heart attack. So oh, 0 (4m 47s): I wonder if that's who this is, 2 (4m 48s): But my, my mom's dad died. Like it was kind of like a mysterious death. Like there is, lemme 0 (4m 54s): Lemme get some evidence here. Like who are you? Gimme a name. Okay, so they're showing me r R as in Robert, J rj. Okay, rj. J r. Do you have any clue? That's 2 (5m 7s): My mom's dad. Yeah. Yeah, 0 (5m 8s): That's him. Wow. Okay. So he's really one of your guides and there was heart stuff is what he's saying. Oh wow. So if there's your answer, I'm wondering what this was. He's a very capable, strong guide. Meaning he's evolved enough, he knows what he's doing. He's saying you are very self-sufficient and you don't always remember to ask for help. And if your life could be that much easier if you just invited in divine intervention and he's telling you, are you currently either recently engaged or in a new relationship? Okay. Are you currently in a relationship? Relationship? 2 (5m 47s): Married. 0 (5m 47s): Married. Okay. So something about the ring on the finger. And when I see that it's either we're talking about your marriage or it's literally you have someone's ring that is significant. 2 (6m 0s): See, this is so weird. I keep, I feel like it's my, my dad's dad because the heart thing and then I have this ring and I don't have things that I really, that are sentimental to me. Like it's, there's very few things and one of them is this really old ring that my grandmother had given me and it is like one of the things I treasure the most. 0 (6m 20s): So that, okay, so what's going on is he is here, I'm asking, and I'm saying is this paternal grandfather, is this the grandparents on that side? I got a yes, but if I also got the J R R J, then that means that grandfather's there too. 2 (6m 35s): Yeah. That's so 0 (6m 36s): Interesting. Now let me keep going into this. What they want me to tell you is something about the ring and connected to that side of the family and you. It's all three of them. Okay, so hold on one second. Who's H? So H first or last initial? 2 (6m 53s): So H is my, would be my husband's side first initial. 0 (6m 58s): So who would be hr? So hr. So does, did he have a father figure who is an H first or last initial he was close to and what's with the changing jobs or ex? It's expansion. It's your husband. So is he changing jobs? Is he getting promoted? Did this recently happen? 2 (7m 25s): So he's like a serial entrepreneur investor. So I feel like he's always changing jobs. He's like by lunch he's doing something else. He 0 (7m 34s): Is, okay, well what does this to tell you is encourage him to start. It's like think bigger and step up and into something bigger and new. Okay. So he might say, I'm getting antsy, I'm getting bored, it's time to recreate. Or all he know is it's not a risk, it's an opportunity. And D is D as in David. Do we know who this is? Who's D connected to him? So you're gonna have to write that down and ask him. Yeah. Okay. Did he have an uncle who died relatively young? There's a younger father figure, unless it was a grandfather who died pretty young, like forties. 0 (8m 15s): All I know is he's a guide and he is connected to H C, H C H are my husband's initials. That's what I'm seeing right now. Who would be c h? Is that your husband? 2 (8m 25s): So C are my now initials. It's you, my husband's dad's name is Charles. Like that is like a family name. So that could be c h. And then also Horbacz is the last name. So Charles Horbacz, C h. 0 (8m 39s): Okay, that's where we're going. It's the c h Charles Horbacz. Now do you know if there's one who passed on? 2 (8m 46s): I don't think so. 0 (8m 47s): Okay, so that would be referencing his father. 2 (8m 50s): Yeah, his brother's still alive. 0 (8m 53s): So I would find out if, because my sense is what's this? Is the grandfather off his dad's side and he's probably the one Yes. They're saying yes. Say he's the one giving the Guidance on career stuff on purpose for your husband. 2 (9m 8s): Oh wow, okay. 0 (9m 9s): They don't want you guys moving. And I don't know if there's been this talk about a move or don't tell me that. Whoa, 2 (9m 15s): I just got goosebumps. Yes, we've been talking about moving, 0 (9m 18s): They're saying it's not the right time. You're onto something but you're intuitively ahead of time. 2 (9m 24s): Okay. 0 (9m 25s): And they're also saying, I see, do you have two kids with him? 2 (9m 30s): Yes. 0 (9m 32s): That's, that's perfect. I see it's complete. Don't, I wouldn't push for another. Okay. It's a good balance. And I'm seeing your kids are pretty evolved. I always say our pa our kids choose us. Right. Which our parents. I agree. And do you have a boy and a girl? 2 (9m 50s): Two boys. 0 (9m 51s): Okay. One of 'em is really sensitive. And that's the female energy? Yes. 2 (9m 56s): And 0 (9m 56s): He's more intuitive, empathic. And he's probably gonna be your little messenger and say things to you that are wise beyond his ears. Yeah. So just keep your ears open. Did you guys get them a dog? 2 (10m 9s): No, we have two dogs though. 0 (10m 10s): Okay. You have a dog. One of the dogs is the protector of that more sensitive son. Okay. Yes. Yep. So I always say animals are like angels and this dog is here. It's almost like to keep his energy really open but yet protect him from anything negative lower vibrational from coming around him. Wow. Yeah. And I just saw riding a bike. I don't know if this is like a new thing, I don't know how old your kids are, but is one of them riding a bike? 2 (10m 43s): He's, we're in the process of trying to teach 'em how to ride a bike. Yeah, yeah. 0 (10m 46s): I see it. And they're showing me he's safe and that you are showing up and they're proud of you. Your grandma is, she's standing here. Who's m like Mary, Mimi. M name. 2 (10m 59s): M name, 0 (10m 59s): Yeah. And then somebody had lung issues like lung cancer. Lung can't breathe. Emphysema. C O P D. 2 (11m 7s): Yeah. I don't know, it's like, it's so hard because our family's just like so disconnected. Okay, 0 (11m 14s): So I'm just gonna put out there, there's another woman here right now showing me upper respiratory lung stuff and she's ta I think talking about your mom. So this would most likely be connected on that side. It could be your mother's grandmother. What I'm seeing is mom is living true. Yes. You are not to worry about her. And this might be like you're always kind of feeling like you might be worrying or playing mom to mom and you're saying this is her job, not yours. Okay. Is that grandma alive? Your mom's mom? Yes. Do you know if she has lung, upper respiratory stuff going on? 2 (11m 50s): No one talks to her. So like it's, she's estranged. 0 (11m 53s): Oh wow. Okay. So I'm just gonna leave that then we won't go there. Were you guys recently planting stuff in your yard? 2 (12m 2s): Planting? Yeah. Always 0 (12m 3s): Pre planting flowers. They love when you do this with your kids. And I'm gonna go back to the angel. So this purple angel guide is showing me you're ready to evolve to a new level with your work here. And you have opportunities and they're telling you don't limit yourself like you can, as long as you have balance, you're good. So it's like working part-time, being mom part-time, full-time. Don't, don't feel, don't limit yourself. Don't put the brakes on because on a mind's level you don't know if you can manage it all. Okay. Are you writing a book? Did you write a book? 2 (12m 42s): No. No. 0 (12m 43s): Okay. Writing is what they're encouraging you to do. Okay. So it's maybe taking all the wisdom you've gathered and start journaling about it. It could naturally evolve into something that you publish. Mm. Buddha are you spiritual over religious? Yeah. 2 (13m 1s): Very spiritual. Yes. We 0 (13m 2s): Want you to keep following your, your connection to something bigger source energy, God, whatever you wanna call it. And what I see is that spiritual path is exactly where you need to be. You're right where you need to be. Feathers are coming up, I don't know if you keep finding feathers or sometimes this, it goes hand in hand with birds as a sign. Okay. So it's like giving, that's the grandma. That's the grandma we mentioned earlier. Who is the, our initial grandfather? Is that Robert? His name is Robert, yeah. Yeah, he's definitely one of your main guides along with that purple angel guide. Okay. Okay. And then we do have the grandmother and grandfather off your dad's side and they're like your cheerleaders. 0 (13m 44s): So it's called what I, what I called a team spirit. Okay. It's made up of all sorts of different levels of loved ones, guides, angels, and they want you to use them more. So it's like sometimes forgetting to invite in this information or this wisdom. And I'm seeing when you go to bed at night, you're a vivid dreamer, aren't you? 2 (14m 5s): Yes I am. Because 0 (14m 6s): That's the easiest way for them to download intuitive insight. Mm. So when you go to bed and you're, you're like, I don't know what to do or I need more information or Guidance pray about it, ask spirit to show you. And then when you wake up, take note of what you remember. Okay. Happy birthday. Who has, who has a birthday? Like 2 (14m 26s): My, my youngest is turning one. Yeah, 0 (14m 29s): So they're showing me the birthday celebration that they're celebrating alongside you. You might be back and forth like should we do a party or should we cel? They're saying like, do something or acknowledging you just did something. Hold on. They're saying cookie, I'm saying cookie Monster. But they're saying with who's the cookie person? The 2 (14m 48s): Cookie 0 (14m 48s): Person? Cookies. 2 (14m 51s): That's a tough one. It's either my oldest or my husband. One or the other. 0 (14m 55s): I love cookies. 2 (14m 57s): Yeah, both of them. They're 0 (14m 58s): Teasing about the cookie monster and I don't know, but I would just say they're, you know what they're doing, they're trying to give you evidence that they're peeking in on your life. The little things, the big things. And they're trying to comfort you so that they're watching, they're listening, they're available to help you. Is there anything else she needs to hear? There's a younger guy who died. I really believe it was an accident, but I sensed him earlier. He either died by, it's his own choices that caught up with him. It's like accidental overdose or alcoholism. Do you know who this is? Is this a friend you? 2 (15m 34s): So is it Not of me personally, but my husband actually just lost a friend recently. That's 0 (15m 41s): Your husband's friend. Okay. And when I said did your husband have an uncle who died younger? I think that's who this was. Mm. Okay. Because he is hovering and he is making me feel, okay, hold on. He's not a d, is he? 2 (15m 55s): So his there's, well he, unfortunately my husband lost a couple friends. The more recent one, his name was Andy. 0 (16m 1s): Andy. D d, yeah, it's Andy. 2 (16m 5s): Oh my god. I have had goosebumps this whole time. Yeah, like ferociously strong. 0 (16m 11s): So D earlier was and D and what he's trying to say is he's okay, but he has a lot of regret. Wow. This, it's like I, I recognize now the choices I made out of alignment got me here, but I'm okay. And either he is messing with your husband's. Like I feel like I'm in the car and my phone won't cook up. My Bluetooth's not working. My sometimes technology, you know, little blips happen. But this is one of those, you can't explain it. And then the song comes on the radio and it reminds you of Andy. And all I know is he's messing with electronics and I see him in the car and he is trying to give signs to let your husband know he's okay and that he's near my gosh. 0 (16m 52s): And so I would share that with him. But that there's also m like Michael. So Michael might be another spirit who passed or a friend, a mutual friend connected to your husband and Andy. Okay. 2 (17m 5s): And Michael's younger, 0 (17m 6s): I don't know. Age. Yeah, I, my sense is like husband, like not a grandpa. Yes. Okay. And is there a joke about like somebody has a dog that looks like a pig or like a bulldog or like the face 2 (17m 25s): We have, we have this older dog and we always equate her to like some like ruminant animal. 0 (17m 31s): I think that's it. They're teasing and they're showing me that older dog senses when spirits are around in my track. Something like looking. Yeah. Okay. She 2 (17m 41s): Does do that. 0 (17m 42s): And then they're showing me, you guys need to get, I don't know if you had a professional come out and fix like it's like a doorbell's not working the alarm system. Oh 2 (17m 49s): My god, yes. Like two days ago. Yeah. 0 (17m 53s): They're showing me this and they're just trying to confirm in your mind and heart like I couldn't know this. Right, but they're with you. That's why they're saying this. And when I say they, it's all these spirits who have popped in to say hello, but most importantly are your guides. Mm. Okay. So we'll leave it at that. That's, wow, that's reading. And the truth is you don't have a lot of drama, which is so good. 2 (18m 14s): No thank, we've done a lot of work to try to protect our space and keep it very like serene and intentional. And conscious. 0 (18m 22s): I can tell it's good. Whatever you're doing, keep doing. 2 (18m 24s): Thank you. That was so incredible. And like anyone listening, how on earth would you know that I had my doorbells fixed two days ago? That is crazy. That's amazing. That is so wild. So I guess piggybacking off of that incredible experience, we have these guides and these angels always with us, like waiting for us to ask for help. How is it that we can, I guess, like remind ourselves that that is, that's an option to like, to pray, to ask for help, to ask for Guidance, to ask for signs, to ask for dreams, 0 (18m 57s): Right? 2 (18m 58s): What's a good way to to keep that alive? Well 0 (19m 1s): I mean this is very like simple and earthly, but something I did in my early days is I would just get a, a sticky note and put it on the side of my bed and I would just say, remember to ask or thank you dear spirit for.dot, you know, whatever you need to do to jog your conscious mind and your your memory, just ask. However that is for me, it's become just a habit before I even lift my head off the pillow, what I do and what I suggest to my clients to do is take five seconds. Okay. Or up to five to 10 minutes and just lie there and say divine spirit, God guides, angels, departed loved ones, whatever you wanna say. 0 (19m 47s): Okay. From your heart, you don't even have to say it out loud, just feel it and think it out and just say, I invite you into this day, help me have a day of grace, ease, joy, flow, show up, show me signs, bring me synchronicities miracles, thank you for, and then put out what you need, your intentions. That's it. It's that simple. 2 (20m 12s): I love that it's simple and it's not like this elaborate thing that you have to do this dance and beat a drum and then sacrifice a chicken or whatever it is. It's like no, you can ask for help. And they're, some people are really focused on numerology and they'll say that their angel numbers show up. Some people, like you were mentioning, have really vivid dreams and we've, we've been in this space of exploring psychedelics and doing retreats and starting this foundation around that. And I haven't done a lot at all. Like that's more my husband's gate. I'm much more reserved. So it takes a lot for me to be able to release and surrender to those experiences. But even when I'm just doing mentoring and then I'll have dreams, it's almost like these releases happen within that space. 2 (20m 55s): And I'll have the equivalent of the most psychedelic trip you've ever had. Just while I'm sleeping and I wake up and I remember everything. So it's like understanding I think what you're what like tools and modalities are showing up for you in like the spirit realm. Exactly. 0 (21m 10s): Spirit meets you where you're at. And so we're all at different places, what I call the yellow brick road and there's no like better or worse, okay we're, it's just, it's kind of like you when you're in grades K through 12, third grade isn't worse than 10th grade. It's just the natural progression. And so for people who are really open like you who are intentional, who are doing the work on a mind-body, spirit level, are going to have opportunities to have these amazing greater experiences. Okay. And so if somebody's listening to this right now and they're like, wow, I really want trippy dreams or visitations for my dead loved ones and dreams, you can have it. 0 (21m 53s): The fact you're listening says that you're ready for it. Spirit is suggesting that you invited in and for some it's gonna be through meditation. We all find spirit in the ways that are available to us based on our level of, of evolution. Okay. And so for some, you know, you know all of this, it doesn't have to be complicated. It can be super simple. Like a lot of people will say to me, I don't know how to meditate. I'm like, there's no right or wrong way. And it's not a one size fits all. So for some people it's go for a walk, just get outside, set the intention to be present, go to don't, you know, listen to your mu, maybe listen to music, probably not try and find stillness and just walk. 0 (22m 41s): and that can be a moving meditation. So again, it doesn't have to be complicated. 2 (22m 46s): Do you have advice for anyone who struggles with that stillness? Because I find that there's this quote and it's if you want patience, god's not gonna give you patience, but he's gonna give you an opportunity to develop patients if you want like a brand and you apply that like to abundance, et cetera. So if you want to be in this place of self-acceptance, self-love, wholeness, then you're provided oppor through opportunity. You're not just granted this thing. So oftentimes when you're presented with these opportunities where you have nothing going on for the entire month, right? All of all your projects kind of came to a halt, there's no, no one's celebrating, there's no activities, there's no travel. And you're like man this sucks, nothing's happening this month. 2 (23m 27s): And you're like, no, this is everything telling you to be still and to like go inward and maybe journal and maybe read and maybe just go out in nature. But there's this real resistance to just being, 0 (23m 38s): Oh my gosh. I know for me especially my guides always sign out when I talk to them. I do automatic writing and they download this information where I either type it on the commuter or journal and they always sign off with just be okay. and that has been such a work in progress for me and I know for so many people I work with because the human mind and the ego we're wired to do okay just being is really I think a challenge for a lot of us. 'cause we don't equate that with being productive or successful and, and honestly it's like we have to be able to be present and still. 0 (24m 18s): 'cause the, our point of power is in the now moment. and that is just being, and that's where the magic happens because that's where we can tap into our intuition and spirit and just being allows us to download that creative genius, our own higher self, our intuition and the Downloads like I just did for you and the psychic Guidance the readings. And so you said something really interesting, like if you want patience, God doesn't just give you patience, give God gives you a situation to test you in learning how to develop patience. Right? Well in my latest book, what's your Heaven? I just wrote a chapter on this because we are here in earth school and we all signed up for certain lessons. 0 (25m 3s): We are here to learn. And one of the chapters is, I am here to Heal and contribute. And it's all about, we have to go through sometimes situations that we would label as challenging or bad. Let's say it's a health issue. And a lot of times what happens is we go through that lesson so that we can be a Guinea pig and have street credibility saying, no, I walked the walk and now you can go pay it forward and service to others based on learning whatever that lesson was. And so it takes us out of a victim mentality. It's not happening to you, it's happening for you, right? 0 (25m 45s): And you reframe it and you're like, oh, so I actually wanted to learn patience. And so I had this very frustrating situation and I reframed it to wait, no, here's an opportunity for me to exercise patience and have compassion and then you know, you either pass the test or you don't. But what spirit has taught me is you really wanna try and do the work and get it right because it will keep circling back around and around and each time it does, it starts out as a whisper and it eventually becomes a giant roar. Yes. And that's where those giant wake up calls happen. And it, we don't need to learn with pain and struggle. Right? We can do it with ease and grace. 2 (26m 26s): No, I agree. I've had my own instances in my life where you have this knowing, this internal knowing, but you're like, no, I'm not gonna listen to that. That's just paranoia. That's just my self-doubt. Or that's whatever you chalk it up to and then in whatever it is, it gets louder and louder and louder until it's, you cannot ignore it anymore. And then you can either decide to live with a lot of discomfort, a lot of pain, a lot of struggle, or you could say, Hey, maybe I'm not making the right decisions. Maybe I've veered off of my path a little bit far and I need to recalibrate. 0 (26m 56s): Exactly. You know, and every day is a chance to do it again. And you know, as long as we don't enslave ourselves with all this, you know, judgment and I think we are our own worst critics and we work against ourselves a lot of times, if we can pull back and that's that just being get out of your mind, get out of your ego, attachments, judgments, all of that and really just be and show up each day with it, seeing it as a gift and a new opportunity to redo or recreate, do it better. That's why we're here. We're here to grow and evolve and we're perfectly imperfect. We're not meant to be perfect. Right? It's okay if we don't get it right. 0 (27m 37s): But the whole idea is to learn from your mistakes and try and do and be better each moment each day. 2 (27m 44s): So what's your interpretation of the ego? Like what is the ego? You 0 (27m 48s): Know, I once heard Wayne Dyer say, ego is edging God out. and that is the best way I can describe it. Ego is that part of our personality. It's the frightened part of our personality, that part of us that is separate from a divine source. So I believe we are all a spark of the divine, okay? Physically focused in a human body and we are all connected through that divine spark. And you can call it God, goddess energy, you can call it divine spirit creator, supreme being, there's all these names, right? But it's eternal love and light. That's what it is. 0 (28m 28s): And love doesn't die, energy doesn't die, it just changes form. So it, whether it's focused in a body or it's in the spirit world, that is the essence of a soul. Okay? And so the ego is the part of our personality that comes into this body. And the ego is not bad when I balance the ego combined with the soul is exactly what we need. 'cause our ego allows us to be individual, it allows us to have preferences, it allows us to have a personality and to accomplish what we came here to do, our unique contribution to the world. And so when the ego's in check and it's in a healthy place and connected to something bigger, your higher self and divine spirit, that's where you wanna be. 0 (29m 14s): But the problem is when you are solely showing up each day operating from ego, edging God out, you're unplugged, disconnected. A lot of times our tendency is we choose to make choices from the frequency of shadow. Okay? So we either make choices from shadow or or from light. And light is when we are plugged into what I was just saying this higher, our higher selves, the divine spark and divine spirit shadow is the ego, the that's the wounded part of ourselves that we are here to Heal. Okay? And so when we are alone and trying to figure out life and do life solely through our ego, we're limited. 0 (29m 58s): But when we plug into our higher selves, we have what I call it's team spirit available. It's a co-creative dance. And life becomes magical because spirit can see five steps ahead. Right? And can divine intervention. That's why I was saying invite in divine Guidance, start your day by saying humbly like yes I choose to show up in my body with an ego, but as a co-creative effort with divine spirit, with my team and spirit. That's a powerful place to be. 2 (30m 33s): So I feel like when it comes to ego, it's very easy for almost anyone to see the traditional like enlarged, inflamed ego and someone acting out of that space. Like it's, you know, that very stereotypical type of behavior or like energy that you're approaching tasks and conquering and climbing and taking. But when I think there's this new ego or this new expression of ego that's coming out, which is I what Jamie Wheal calls the superego and it's a lot of people that are taking psychedelics every weekend. It's a lot of people that are very deep in the spiritual world and they are saying, I have seen God, so now I know more than you, I have transcended my ego. 2 (31m 16s): I've had enough ego deaths. I really despise that term because if you have a body, you have an ego and I have had so many ego deaths that now I am somehow vibrating at a different level and I know everything I am God. Like you'll hear a lot of people say that and sure there's, it's like true but partial, right? There's some part of that. You did come from God, you did come from source, right? There is that in you, but you are not God. So if you have to be able to discern that, and I think that there becomes that delusion and that one's a trickier one to find because it's not, we haven't seen that in the movies. We are not really like it's this very new movement that's happening. 2 (31m 57s): So it's how do you know if you are in a place of alignment and you aren't acting out of ego when you are in this like spiritual culture and cycle, right? 0 (32m 6s): You know, anyone who's truly not being run by their ego is not in competition, is not in judgment, is not better than, okay. That's all ego. And there's a lot of what I've noticed, a lot of spiritual leaders who tend to program people, they become the guru and they know better than and then they be, they create this following where they want to be worshiped and bowed down to. And you know, they, they program people. This is the way, right? And that's very scary and it's very unhealthy because you know, our job as spiritual teachers and leaders is to empower others to go within and trust their own innate wisdom. 0 (32m 52s): Their own they be your own guru. Okay? I always say I am here as a guide to show you what it looks like and how to do this, but always gut check what I offer because it may not resonate. Take what works, leave the rest. Okay? And so anytime someone is in this role of telling you like how it should be or in judgment of right, wrong, good, bad, this way, that way, okay, that is a huge red flag. We all are a spark at the divine. Okay? And I, it doesn't mean they that somebody doing that didn't find God, but there's many paths. 0 (33m 33s): One truth meaning their way may not be the way for someone else to find something bigger and connect to source or God. We all have our own unique way. And so yeah, you do see a lot of, a lot of that kind of a power trip. You know? And so that's just again a huge red flag. If I saw that, that would be the last person I would follow. You know that that's where it becomes brainwashing and almost like cult-like. 2 (34m 4s): Yeah they always end up in a sex cult. It always ends at Waco. You know, like you have someone who maybe has so much brilliance and then all of a sudden it gets real weird and inappropriate. Well 0 (34m 16s): They're abusing their power and there's a lot of gifted teachers, healers, you know, that really do have a gift. But they are, it's becoming about them. A real guru is someone who's humble and doesn't need to talk about it and just walks the talk, right? And genuinely wants to help others and empower others to be their best selves rather than force feed them the way their way. Okay. And needs to like boast about it. I mean I think we all know what that ego looks like. 2 (34m 54s): So what's The? Role of Compassion? Because I feel like it's been weaponized a lot like in the last few years. It's almost, it's like part of some people's artillery or it's like sometimes compassion is putting a horse down, right? And that's like the compassionate thing to do. It's not to prolong that horse's right? Life because you know it's not gonna Heal. So like it's shitty and it's gonna make you feel terrible and obviously you're killing the horse, but it is the best and the right thing to do. So I've, I use that in comparison to people because it's like sometimes I feel like there is a brutal honesty that needs to happen. 2 (35m 35s): Almost like a painful honesty or pointing out like especially if you're in a place of a, a teacher or a leader or a guru. And then a lot of these spaces ev I see just like so much coddling and so much enabling and so much like people that are so, I guess identified with their pain that they now like they can't not be healing. 'cause if they're not healing, then who am I? So I constantly have to be in this perpetual state of healing. And then you have someone who likes the attention and they like the stage. So they're like, okay, well then if you always wanna be a student, then I'll, I'll be here for all of those pains. And all of those traumas, especially like tiny low T traumas that aren't really traumas if you ask me. 2 (36m 16s): And there's not enough people in this space that are just saying like, get your shit together. Right. You know what I mean? Like that brutal like putting the horse down. Like this is, this is the most compassionate thing. Like this true. Like you need to hear this truth about yourself so that you can introspect and transcend and elevate not the enabling coddling that I see a lot. 0 (36m 35s): Exactly. Oh my gosh, I love so much that you just said all this. So this is, honestly, this is okay, anybody who works with me knows, like I am very loving and kind, but I am super direct and only because I had the pattern of enabling in my personal relationships and it was very disempowering and spirit woke me up and I realized, okay, what you, what you have to do is really take accountability for your life and not be a victim. And you know the book I just wrote, what's your Heaven? It's all about we are an earth school and that means we have homework. And is it always fun or easy? 0 (37m 16s): No, Life is messy and sometimes we have to do the hard things. But that is where our brilliance comes, that's where our growth and evolution comes when we find the courage to take accountability for our choices and to show up and to do the work. You know, there's no magic pill. I wish there was, we all wish there was, but there's not. It really comes down to looking at, okay, what are my lessons? Not Why is this happening to me, but what is this here to teach me and how do I Heal, how do I find balance in this rather than staying stuck in our stories, right? 0 (37m 57s): The false narratives either we've told ourself and that becomes our little t dramas and traumas or that have been passed down to us from our generations above us, you know, our parents, our grandparents. And so it's really taking your power back and, and doing the work, whatever that is. So when I do readings, spirit comes forward, now they meet you where you're at. But most people who are who find me are ready to know the truth. Okay. Whether it's, yeah, your husband is having an affair, you've always sensed it, you're too afraid to look at it and you need to know, you know, or yeah, you are screwing up your kid 'cause you're helicopter parenting and not letting them live their life. 0 (38m 39s): Yeah. You know, they will tell you what you need to know so that you can, but they spirit always does it in a way with, with love non no judgment. Okay. And love and love and I guess it's tending tender loving care t l C, right? In a way that you can hear it. But then, okay, I'm gonna hold your hand and let's walk you through how you can change this. How you can rise up and out of the struggle or the fight or the victim or whatever you're, what's going on. So yeah, 2 (39m 13s): No, that's, no, that's amazing. I wanted to ask, so there was, you have, it's part of your book where you kind of do an assessment of your, your relationships and it's like a, an audit of sorts. And I ask this because I feel like the more work I do, the more difficult it is to maintain certain friendships and relationships. It's just, it takes so much more effort. My perspective is so different that it's hard to connect or it's hard to relate. And especially if it comes to something like scarcity, people that have like a real finite perspective on resources and energy and money. And I just, it nothing irks me more. 2 (39m 54s): I'm like, you're choosing that and I don't know why you're so committed to live in a, in a space of scarcity, right? When you know the universe is so abundant. So how can I audit my relationships to see where I'm at? 0 (40m 6s): Yeah. So I created this list list and whether you do it with yourself individually, it's basically a life review of before you die and you're forced to take a life review because you still have a chance to correct maybe things that aren't working. So whether it's with yourself or with someone else. And it could be somebody on their deathbed, it could be you're, you're in a friendship and you know, a lot of times we outgrow our friendships, our our love romantic relationships because one of us is doing the work to grow and evolve and the other one's not. And so the one who's not, it's not their fault, it's that we are changing, they are not. And that's where you, you don't wanna shrink down to fit in and match them. 0 (40m 51s): You wanna rise up and shine, amen. And you wanna do so with the intention to be the light, be the example for those around you. And either your friends, your partners will be inspired by that and start to do the work and rise up and match you or they won't. And what happens then is the universe decides it for you, they fall outta your life. You have an organic breakup of some sort. Okay? Or a death perhaps. And it can be really scary and uncomfortable. But what you have to remember is that the law of attraction, okay, you will find your people and the universe will bring those right new relationships to you that match the frequency you're in. 0 (41m 33s): And so it can be uncomfortable to the ego, it's like an ego death of releasing the people, the situations. But if your consciousness, for example, is in abundance consciousness and you have family members or friends who are still in scarcity consciousness, you are gonna be on two different wavelengths. You're just not gonna match up. And so it's okay, like give it to God, give it to your guide, send them love and then let it be, don't try and force the friendship. It's like trying to put on an old pair of jeans that are too tight and you've outgrown it's uncomfortable. Go buy a bigger size of jeans if that's what you need. You know, like allow yourself to expand and grow and fly to soar this higher frequency because that's what we're here to do. 2 (42m 19s): Do you have like a technique or a meditation or just a path for people to be able to pull a root out of something that is like an embedded narrative that we have? And scarcity is a great example 'cause I think a lot of people can relate to that. Just, I still struggle with it sometimes it's something I have to actively choose not to fall into. Which is why I get so triggered when I'm around people like that. 'cause I, it's very easy for me to automatically go back into those negative thoughts. 'cause that was my programming growing up. So I do a lot of work to try to remain open and abundant and like think that there's enough pie for everybody instead of like they're taking my likes like shut up, like to my little head, they like the little voice in my head like shut up. 2 (43m 2s): So how, and I have meditated, I've done work, I've done psychedelics and that there's still this lingering scarcity. So how the f do I take the root out? 0 (43m 13s): Yeah. You know, I think intention is number one because energy follows intention, right? And so I did create a program in this book I call it change it, run it, tap it and change It is, it's all about flipping the false belief. So from the negative to the affirmative, okay? So from the false beliefs that either you created from illusion delusion or that you adopted from your ancestors to your soul truth, okay? That knowing that you are abundant. So you have to then it's almost like affirmations. So you could take like I am, let's say worthiness is your issue. 0 (43m 53s): Okay? So I am unworthy. I'm not enough to, I am so worthy and deserving. I am more than enough. I am enough for just being born. And so you have to then start canceling the negative every time you see it coming back into whether it's conscious or unconscious. Cancel. Cancel and flip it and affirm whether you say it out loud, you write it down, okay? But affirmations alone, I don't think work. So you have to be able to integrate that. And so what I've been doing for years with my energy healer is we run energy and that's using the frequency of colors. Okay? Every color vibrates at a different frequency. 0 (44m 34s): And so you know, violet light is transmuted it, it changes negative energy to positive or gold. Light is about divine truth and all love. And so you can, with your affirmations combined with visualizing, meditating on certain colors and running it through your system. And so change it, run it. And the third part is tap it emotional freedom technique. Okay? So you're using the the art of tapping to hit those acupressure points in your body to integrate the new beliefs. So you're releasing emotional toxins, okay? And those false beliefs as you run through the tapping. 0 (45m 15s): So you can do one of those things, you can do all of those things. And this book actually has a QR code for free meditations and videos on this exact stuff. So if anyone's like, I don't know where to start, five minutes a day, okay and check this out. And I walk you through it and it's that simple. You're changing your energy, you're changing your vibration, okay? and that right there is going to over time, repetition, do it for 30 days, 60 days to reprogram reset. You will have pulled out that route. Okay? And it's really, that's what I'm talking about. It is work but it's easy. 0 (45m 56s): It's five minutes a day and it sets the tone for the rest of your day. So it is worth it. 2 (46m 1s): No, that sounds, I love that there's something actionable to do because again, it's something that I've been really working on personally and I know probably a lot of other people can resonate with. So thank you very much for that. 0 (46m 13s): Yeah, and it works. I'm telling you like, 'cause even I, I am, I'm not immune to any of this. I have my own baggage, my own homework and I do it and then sometimes you're like, oh my gosh, why haven't I been tapping? Why haven't I been doing my, my own program? And then I go do it. I'm like wow, I feel really different. So, but again, what I always like to remind people take what works, leave the rest. Something I said may have really resonated and something else not so much then that's your Guidance and then you know, 'cause you wanna find what resonates because that means that's what you need right now and that will work for you. 2 (46m 48s): Yeah, I agree with that. When it comes to like Intergenerational Trauma or even past life karma for people that believe in that, how much of it is necessary to try to figure out, because I have this theory that we forget for a reason. Like I don't think that that's a mistake. I think some people are able to maybe tap into it much easy, like much easier or like they say that they remember all of their past lives and it's not even taking energy, it's just there, it's just like a memory. But then you have people that are focused so hard on like recovering past lives and trying to figure out whatever their karmic debt is. 2 (47m 29s): And I almost feel like it's a, a way to avoid what's currently happening in this life and like this in this carnation. So like how necessary is it or at all to go back and look at past life trauma or karma or are we supposed to kind of be focused on the here and now? 0 (47m 48s): You know, I think it, it's useful when it's relevant to your current day situation. And so when I do readings, I'll ask spirit, show me what this person is ready to hear, needs to hear and it, the only information that ever comes through is exactly what you're ready for. And sometimes we do talk about past life stuff, sometimes we don't. It depends on, okay, we've lived hundreds if not tens of thousands of past lives. So you, when you do, you dip into past life regression, whether you do it with a professional or you do it on your own, you'll be taken to the life that's relevant to the homework or the lesson you're working on now in this life. 0 (48m 32s): And so in that case it's good. It's going to acknowledge is power, okay? And if you can have your aha moment like oh my gosh the reason I'm have eating disorders is because I starved to death in my last life. That's gonna bring you this new awareness and compassion for yourself and healing can happen because you can connect the dots on some of the, you know, unconscious patterns and behaviors that we find ourselves in. I think it's really good when it comes to Intergenerational things that have been passed down to you when you are able to get information, okay about, let's say a family pattern. 0 (49m 13s): Let's say there's a his a line of alcoholics in your family and you are waking up and in recovery, okay? And you need information on I, I sit down with you and we do a reading and your great-grandfather comes through apologizing for starting this pattern of numbing and checking out and just this dysfunctional pa family pattern passed down to your father. And now to you there's healing in that. Okay? And then you have an opportunity to break the chain of dysfunction and you can Heal generations forwards and backwards by having the courage to get the information you need to make peace with yourself and to move forward, break that pattern. 0 (50m 0s): So again, a lot of times it's healthy. Now to your point, a lot of times we get obsessed and that's the human part, the ego where we just can't shake it. We get kind of brought down into a downward spiral where we get almost paralyzed by it. That's very disempowering and that's where you need to focus forward because whatever you focus on expands. So if you're focused on the past and stuck in the past and reliving it, you go into victim, there's no way you can evolve past that. So sometimes you just have to acknowledge it, not spiritually bypass it. You've done your work, you've looked at it and then you let it go. 0 (50m 42s): Give it to God, ask to cut the cords. Sometimes there's shamanic, you know, healings you can do to really, and that's why I think a lot of people do Ayahuasca to journey into it and to Heal it and release it and then focus forward and decide what you wanna move into and put your energy towards co-creating what's next. 2 (51m 8s): I have two follow-up questions. So what is the reason that we forget or that that isn't available unless we're actively trying to have a breakthrough and then why can't people see the future? Because if we know that time's not linear, pretty much all of science kind of agrees that if it exists at all, right? It's not linear. So if everything's kind of happening simultaneously, how come we can't see future carnations? 0 (51m 34s): So sometimes we can, okay, okay. And it just depends where you're at. You know I talk about soul Contracts in the book and we talk about before you're born you prearrange to have these certain lessons and experiences and encounters you're gonna have during the course of your lifetime. And it's almost like the what and the why are set, what's gonna happen and the why behind it. Okay? But the when, where, how, who that's subject to change based on free will. So sometimes when I do readings, I will get access to future timelines and be able to predict things. And if you go with the flow and don't interfere and let your ego control these things play out, I can't tell you how many tens of thousands of people have said, oh my god, you predicted a baby on this day and a half because that was part of your soul contract and it was supposed to happen. 0 (52m 26s): But you have the power to interfere for better or for worse. If you don't like it, change it if, and sometimes we work against ourselves and we over control and we change it, but we didn't really mean to change it and things don't play out. Okay, so can we access the future? Yes. But again, remember it's only a probability or likelihood based on your free will and the free will of other people involved. Okay? That's why we don't wanna get too attached. 2 (52m 57s): So like any other contract, there's terms, there's conditions, there's null and like the voiding of Contracts. So when you have this contract, let's say with a baby on the other side, like a spirit on the other side, I guess like what makes that change? So I can't like tell a story too much 'cause it's not mine to tell, but if you have this couple that's like really trying to conceive and they say that they have met the soul of their child, but it's just not coming in and it's not coming into like the three D, but they're just there waiting for the perfect opportunity or maybe there's one and then all of a sudden it voids out and now there is no baby that happens. 2 (53m 37s): Is there anything that is like triggering those things like the decision to come in and experience life or the decision to skip and not and not have the human experience? 0 (53m 48s): Yeah, so you know, we always have the opportunity to renegotiate our Contracts and sometimes like we bite off more than we can chew. We're like, oh my god, what was I thinking? I must've been on drugs when I planned this life before I was born because this is just way too much, right? And so you may, whether it's consciously or unconsciously in your dream state, reconnect with your team of guides your counsel and spirit and say, I need to renegotiate this and I can't handle another baby. I'm in over my head with my two kids already. And you may not be conscious of that, but then you're, because of the shoulds, like we should try and get pregnant, we should have another. 0 (54m 28s): Everyone in my family had three kids. But it doesn't happen and it's, you have to trust there's a reason. So whether that's because of you or because of people around you or the soul in spirit who's saying, you know what? I've rethought this. I'm not gonna come in 'cause I see how things are going down there. And I don't think I would add, I think I would take away from this equation. So it's very complicated because it's not just about us, it's about everyone we're in relationship with and their so Contracts, okay, so I'll use myself as an example. I had two boys and then I got divorced and then I got remarried. But when in my first marriage and in my second marriage I had over the course of about 10 years, I had probably a dozen psychic readings with other people. 0 (55m 16s): Every single one told me I was having another baby and I was having a girl. And my ego is like, no, you are so wrong, you're so off until it happened. And it was a miracle I did not plan for this baby. My husband had a vasectomy 10 years before it reversed itself and I was five months pregnant and I didn't even know it. 2 (55m 36s): Oh my gosh. I was 0 (55m 37s): Working with my doctor on hormonal imbalance and we thought, oh my cycle's off. Turns out I was pregnant and this little girl came in. Wow. Because she, her soul told me in a meditation, her guide said no, we agreed that she had to come in. She has a big purpose to bring a lot of joy. And so I wasn't cooperating, my ego was resisting. So spirit basically got us out of the way, worked its magic literally on my husband and this beautiful gift, I mean the greatest gift miracle ever happened. And so that was part of my soul contract. And so there's a lot of times things happen that don't add up on a mind level, but on a soul level we know. 0 (56m 22s): And the beauty is we can always access that soul knowing whether it's on our own through our dreams and meditations or through someone else like getting a reading or doing hypnosis. 2 (56m 36s): So if you have someone that, let's say their preferred modality is psychedelics and then that's where they go to to play and to ask questions and to get creative Downloads or make life decisions, but like that is the lane that feels in alignment with them. How do you know? And I don't know if that's a space that you partake in or familiar with, so like, please tell me if it's not your, your gate. 0 (57m 1s): This is not where I work. I'm familiar with it. I personally have never done it because I don't need to. I have like this satellite connection. I don't really need it, but I'm totally open to it. I think if some people need it to access that part of their consciousness, by all means do it if it resonates for you. Right. 2 (57m 22s): So how do you discern though, between, what is that pure energy, like pure Ayahuasca coming in and giving you Downloads and Divinity versus maybe a mischievous 0 (57m 36s): Yes. Spirit coming in. I love that you asked this question. So even if you're not using psychedelics, even if you're just engaging in recreational drinking or any type of drug, you open your, you're vulnerable, you open your energy up to anything. And before I do any work, I say a prayer and I connect into the light divine spirit. Okay. Source energy. Because if you don't, you can be hijacked by shift shapeshifters. Okay. Energy posing to be light, but it's really darkness. Entities that truly are, are drawn to those who are vulnerable, those who have let their defenses down through, you know, drugs or, or a lot of the times happens just without drugs, with people who have mental imbalance. 2 (58m 28s): I was just gonna ask because it seems that certain people, especially as people with schizophrenia, that they tend to have access to or attract more. They do. Entities. 0 (58m 37s): They do. And because their defenses are down, there's, in a sense, I always imagine like a big giant bubble around me of protection. But when you get vulnerable and you're tired, or you're drinking or doing drugs, there's holes in your bubble. And that's where the dark energies can get in. But be posers, like posing as light. Hmm. So you always wanna say, are you of the light, are you of divine light? Are you of source energy? And then if it's not, it will go away. And so you just say, I'm only in agreement with the light, I only work with source. Okay. Whatever you wanna say. But it's about light and love. And if it's anything less than that, get outta here. 0 (59m 18s): Okay. You always have that power, but you have to be consciously aware. So if you're gonna engage in Ayahuasca, you wanna make sure you're doing it with a professional, somebody who knows what they're doing. You wanna make sure that you, you personally have set up your boundaries and you're clear on you're only going to work of that which is of pure light and love, you know, divine spirit and, and you should be fine. 2 (59m 46s): Yeah. 'cause I've seen some people that have made some pretty big decisions and I have never partaken in Ayahuasca. I have no interest whatsoever. It is just not for me. And I know that. But I've seen people make huge decisions and I was like, I don't know if that was the divine energy telling you to do that, or that seems like something else. Like it very, and I've shared it with some other professionals and like spiritual leaders and like OG Psychonauts, and they're like, whoa, no, that is, that's something more nefarious happening. And they just took it as something I know that they were supposed to do. And that's so scary. 0 (1h 0m 18s): It is. It is. And so you have to be very discerning. Okay. Be open, but discerning and always gut check it if it feels off, if it doesn't add up, trust that that is your Guidance. Something is not of pure purity, of not of light, not of truth. And so that, that happens, it happens unfortunately a lot more than we realize. So I guess whatever you're doing, always pray first and call in the light and set those boundaries. And if you do that, then you are in the light. You don't need to worry. But if you don't do that, it's like playing with fire. 2 (1h 0m 56s): So I guess to continue on with this, 'cause I just find it so fascinating. There's a family member of mine that is a magnet for like very dark, heavy energy and like intelligent energy. I'm not talking like, ooh, I get a bad vibe. I mean like, and this is gonna sound crazy for some people, but my husband has also been there for this. Like, things show up in the house, like you can see things moving, like the bed will move, like if things you cannot deny and like, it's not good. It's not like something playful, like it's, it's just cold and not good and I don't know what to do. 'cause it's like someone who's very close to me and there is some mental illness there. So I think that that's maybe part of what is happening. 2 (1h 1m 38s): But how do you get to a place where you can protect your home, protect your immediate family and still let that person in because whatever, like whatever is with them is coming with them. Oh yeah. 0 (1h 1m 47s): I mean, I hear you. I have a similar situation in my family and mental health issues run in my family and they are a magnet for dark energies and entities. And so here's what I do and what I would suggest is that I, before I'm gonna be with them, after they leave, I call in God's light. Okay? I fill my home with gold. I imagine the walls flooded with gold light. I call in Archangel Michael, I call in all the angels that are there as protectors, Archangel Metatron. These are really powerful beings that will release darkness, cut cords. 0 (1h 2m 27s): But what happens is when you call this energy in, especially before or when you're in the presence of that person and you're feeling it and seeing it just close your, you don't even have to close your eyes. You can be looking at them, but imagine this gold flooding and putting almost like a golden dome around your house, around you protecting you. What happens is they get so uncomfortable, they leave or they don't come at all. I've had, I remember we're gonna have a party and there was someone there was very dark and I didn't want their, and they, they had RSVP'd there coming and I did this and they didn't show up. And so it, the universe will protect you because what happens is that dark entity energy doesn't like the light. 0 (1h 3m 9s): It's like the minute you call in the light, it flees Okay. Because it, it can't be in the same presence of God. So you always have the power to counteract that. And I think the biggest thing is, is not to talk yourself out of it and say, oh my gosh, I'm just being crazy or I'm being judgemental, or I should be more compassionate. No, that's your protection and you don't want that energy around you in your house. And unfortunately, you know, there's been so much suicide lately and what's happening is whether the person's mentally ill or they're just using drugs and alcohol and they're vulnerable, dark entities get in their head and they talk them into doing dark things that are irreversible, such as taking their life. 0 (1h 3m 57s): Okay. So this is not to be, you know, played around with, it's to be like really handled and dealt with. Does that help? 2 (1h 4m 5s): Yeah, that's super helpful. Yeah, that's really helpful. And 0 (1h 4m 7s): It really works. Put it to the test. 2 (1h 4m 9s): It's, it's interesting that, that you say that because I've had friends that have not like necessarily made the attempt, but it was there, right? Like the thought was there and they were sharing their experience and she said that it felt like all of a sudden she got these thoughts that weren't hers and like these, like, she had this, like this drive to like pick up a knife and to end her life. And she had it, she wasn't depressed. Like it kind of came out of nowhere and it was like overtaking her. And I'm like that ki it's goes against every cell of evolutionary biology to kill yourself, right? Like we're, every living thing is, is wired to replicate, right? 2 (1h 4m 49s): So to end your life, it just seems like it's going against nature itself. So something else is, is at play in my, in my mind. and that seems spot on. 0 (1h 4m 59s): Yeah, no, it's very real. My father died by suicide and my grandmother and I've had many friends and friends who have family members who have died by suicide. And every time I channel they say that they, it's like having the devil and the angel on their shoulder. And when they're vulnerable, the devil is telling them to do bad things to themselves or to others and it's not them. Mm. Okay. It's the entity energy working on them and through them. And it's really important that when that, you know, we recognize that happening if we're lucky enough to not act on it to get the help you need because sometimes you can't clear it. 0 (1h 5m 42s): Find an energy healer, an exorcist, like figure out, pray about it, ask spirit, you know? For sure. Call in your angel's guides Archangel Michael, but also it's okay to reach out. That's why I see a healer once a week. I work with so much of this, it's, I, it's normal for me to recognize dark energy, but I'm not afraid of it. I just won't work with it. And so I'm like, nope, you're outta here. So if I can't clear it, I have a healer who does because I have had that same experience your friend had, I had it years ago after a large event. It was a young man who took his life. He followed me home from the event I went to my hotel room, I was crawling outta my skin. 0 (1h 6m 23s): This was the time I was married, my first husband. He's like, I've never seen, you're like possessed. I'm like, I am. Like I was just cursing and I got clear. I called my healer and she's like, oh my God. She described the guy to a t the last guy I read, he was on me in me trying to possess me. And so I had to clear him. And it happens to everybody. If you know we, well I wouldn't say it happens to everybody, it can happen, it can to anybody. And the key is to not be afraid of it. To have, be very like clear on your boundaries and to command it gone. Demand your energy back. 0 (1h 7m 2s): Okay. So that's how sometimes though for those who are mentally ill, it requires professional care. It requires medication to be in a balanced good state. And so it's to not be afraid to ask for that help. 2 (1h 7m 17s): Yeah. It's, it's important to note. Yeah, like use all of the tools available to you, right? Like they're here for a reason. When it comes to schizophrenia specifically, what I've found so interesting is in a lot of indigenous communities is if someone has symptoms that look like what we would call schizophrenia is they take that person and they end up being like the shaman of that tribe. So it's not like cast away into this facility. It's not like medicated, it's, they see it as a direct portal to the divine and they, that person undergoes like training essentially and becomes like the medicine man or the shaman of the tribe, which I think is so fascinating. 2 (1h 7m 60s): Wow. 0 (1h 8m 0s): That really is, it's amazing. 2 (1h 8m 4s): Yeah. So I guess before we go, I guess what is, what is like the biggest thing that you have learned from all of your work is when you're working with like spirits and people that have passed, I think we live so much of our lives based off of avoidance of pain and fear and competition and all of these things. And it's like, if I could have known then what I know now and like they're on the other side. So like what is the thing that they know now that they wish, that we know now? 0 (1h 8m 36s): Yeah. Oh God, I could talk for an hour just on that. So many things. But the most common, it's that when we die, we don't have pockets. We're not taking our things that we accumulated our portfolios or bank accounts, the credentials we earned, you know, that all goes away. The only thing that survives is love and, and in that love is our worth. Okay? And our worth is not based on anything external. It's based on the amount of light we held. So that means how we showed up in honor, kindness, compassion, love, generosity to ourselves, but to others. 0 (1h 9m 20s): How we were able to be a vessel of that. And then share that with others. Okay. So I think we need to do a lot more work. We, we work so hard on the physical ex external things. We need to do a lot more work on our internal nature, right? And some of this comes back to just being, and what I mean by that is stop working so hard in effort, struggling. Like try and find the joy in the little things. Be present, be kind, be still okay. Show up to your life and just be there. 0 (1h 10m 0s): So many of us are future tripping or stuck in the regrets or shame or blame of the past that were angry and were resentful and were not present. And, and really if you can truly let all that go and forgive, I think forgiveness is another big one. And not be a victim and say, no, this is not that it happened to me. It was an opportunity for me and did I learn my lessons? And how do I make peace and how do I let it go so that I can be still and I can be present. So I think all of that is usually what I hear in every single reading I do, at least once. 0 (1h 10m 42s): You know, because at the end of the day, you know whether you're alive or you're dead, you can, and this is the book, you can be living in a living hell or you can be living your Heaven on earth. You don't have to wait till we die. But we have got to release the baggage we're carrying, which is, you know, all the, the unhealed unfinished business. Whether it's in relationships or with ourselves in order to feel the feelings of Heaven. Because Heaven, what spirit, spirit tells me is Heaven isn't a place, it's a feeling, it's a vibration, right? So the feelings we were just talking about of kindness, compassion, love, you know, oneness, unity, that is Heaven and that's what we're meant to feel now. 0 (1h 11m 29s): And so I would just encourage people, what does that look like for you? And maybe it's you start simple and you're like, every day I'm gonna take five minutes for me and I'm gonna go out in nature 'cause nature makes me happy. Or I'm gonna go play with my dog or my grandchild, or I'm gonna go for a walk with my beloved someone. Okay. You wanna find those feelings that feel like connection and oneness and love and peace and joy. 2 (1h 11m 53s): Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much for this conversation. Before we sign off, can you please tell the listeners where they can follow you, where they can get your book, any projects that you might be working on currently, all that good stuff. Yes, 0 (1h 12m 6s): I would love it. My website's, Rebecca Rosen dot com. Everything they need is there. My social media handle is at medium Rebecca Rosen. And I have a, a podcast called Small Medium at Large. And the book is What's your Heaven? You can get it on Amazon. Any major, you know, book retailer has it. And I would encourage people to check it out because I have a lot of free resources, meditations and videos. And I also have a quiz that on my website that if people are trying to figure out, okay, what is my life's purpose? Why am I here? You know, maybe check that out as well. 2 (1h 12m 43s): I love a good quiz. So I'll, I'll be doing that soon as we sign off. 0 (1h 12m 48s): I love it. 2 (1h 12m 48s): Thank you so much, Rebecca, this was wonderful. 0 (1h 12m 51s): This was, thank you for having me. 2 (1h 12m 53s): And that's it for this week's episode of Chatting with Candace. If you liked the episode, make sure you leave us a five star review. You can do it more than once if it's been a while, and share it with a friend or two family members, social media, anyone that you think would really resonate with this content. And I appreciate all of you, again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much. It's really cool to see this thing taking off. And I'll see you next week. 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